Linking Living Profiles in the "Biography" of a non-living ancestor?

Question

I have a question for techy type person that is far smarter than me. Is there a way, inside WT, when I link a living profile to a non-living ancestor in the Bio (say under (children) and then someone not on the trusted list accesses that ancestor, all references to the living provile show as private?

It seems to me, that if I have to manually enter private for every living person on profiles Post-1900 that still have living decendents, this creates a ton of work as people die, to have to go back and update those profiles. Where as if this was something that WT recognized, once I updated the profile of the deceased family member, all links to that member would then no longer be private and the name would appear, instead of having to find each profile connected to now deceased person and change the bios from a typed "private" to a link.

Maybe I'm over thinking this.

Thanks!

Comments

People not on the Trusted List of private profiles cannot see them.

What "locks" a profile to black is that they are living.  For the recently deceased there are coloured lock options that allow differing views depending on the lock colour.  I have my profile set to NOT show my biography, but to allow my tree to be seen.  I have living relatives whose profiles are not viewable.

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Thanks Melanie!

I understand that. I guess it is difficult to be clear on a board... let me try to give an example. Assume the below is inside the Bio box on the profile:

My father (Living)

Donajean (White) Carnahan - Deceased (because she is)

Children

-Private

-Josh

What I am trying to say is that, is there a way inside of the system, the folks that are coding WikiTree, that I could actually link my father's and my brother's profiles. But!, because they are living, the code recognizes that there is no death date on these 2 profiles, so it inputs "Private."

Now fast forward into the future, and lets assume that my father passes away. I go in and edit my father's profile to deceased and enter a death date. Now in the above example profile's Biography, the "private" now has a death date, and reverts to the link.

This saves me from having to go find everywhere that I have mentioned my father in a Bio as "Private" because the code not makes that profile visible.

That is the thought that was bouncing around in my pea brain.

I understand how it works now. I am asking, is there a way that it could be developed.

Josh

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So maybe, I could just have just been told wrong and this is a moot point? See below with Ros' answer. If I can link living memebers, and no cares that their names are present then this question doesn't matter. It was born out of the fact that I was asked to remove living people's names.

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On g2g we are not to discuss the genealogy of living persons - including our own family unless we don't identify them in a way that risks that privacy - but there is no restriction on just mentioning them.

I refer to "my daughter", or "my son", without naming them.  I may also refer to "cousin Derek", because he is a member, as are "cousin Rob", and "cousin Janelle".  (Real names, not made up.  They are all members, and thus have visible profiles.)

With a number of folk making an issue of not even mentioning the living (which is not what the rules say), I edited my late husband's profile and removed the names of his siblings (names which are freely available online in obituaries of their parents and siblings), which leaves the bio reading a little - to me - strangely.

I think we need to balance what the rules say, with what the concerns are regards privacy laws in different countries - because WT is working hard to accommodate the European laws as well as the American ones.  In some places you cannot even take a DNA test, because of the privacy rules.

IF you are attaching the profiles of living people to profiles of deceased people, I don't think there is any need to name them in the biography.  (Better to be safe than sorry.)  I do not believe there is any way the system would automatically update text in the biography, from "private" to the name.  The text would still say "private", although the link would no longer open a black-locked profile, but one that is visible to the colour of the lock.

(I am not sure if I am explaining anything that answers what you are asking, but I tried.)

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I get what you are saying. I know there is no way to do what I am asking now. That is why I was suggesting "techy" people to see if it was even possible inside the code. I don't know who does that kind of thing for WT.

I guess for me, metioning someone's name, with no access to the other protected information doesn't seem like an issue. I for one, know I can google myself and find my brother and parents with little to no difficulty.

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I'm wondering, would using, eg [[Smith-9999999|John Smith]] in the bio display as private to non-trusted list people when they hover over the link in public view?

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No clue. One thought would be to make a test account and leave it basic and check.

Answer 1

The living child's profile will be set as 'Unlisted', so anybody clicking through to it from your deceased person will just be faced with a page that says it is a profile for a living person.

Comments

Thanks Ros! But I've already been asked to not even list their names or link their profiles. If listing the name and linking the profile so they come to "Living Carnahan" is not a problem, then this question is moot.

Answer 2

You can do the following example ...

[[Carnahan-### |my cousin]] lived in ...

While your unnamed cousin is living, any viewer who clicks on "my cousin" will be redicted to a page which just shows something like "Living Person".

Should your cousin pass away and you update his profile with a death date, then all links such as the example above, will still show "my cousin", but when viewers click on that, they will then be able to see his real name and info.

Comments

That's a very good suggestion. At least then the links work and it may trigger someone to make the correction when noticed. Thanks!