Can we have stickers show on private profile pages?

Question

I was adding to some profiles a "one name study" sticker, and noticed some are not showing.  I thought that odd?  Then I looked at my own profile page.   Because I manage my profile page I see my sticker, but when I selected what others see (public view), I could not see my sticker(s) and am wondering if this is an oversite, or was intended.  It reveals no private information but just shows interest in projects or ancestry.  I'm really asking for stickers to be shown on all profile pages regardless if private options are chosen.

I have my profile on "Private with public view of tree".  I know if set to public, (or open) all info will show, but that is not the correct choice for us living folks... 

When I click on my public view tab (on my own profile page) I see my badges, and tags that I follow, and even my DNA tests I choose to share.  I don't want people to see my bio information unless I add them to my trusted list.  If open, they may see my children, or other personal information I choose not to share at this time.

Can we have our stickers show when we choose to be private but sharing something like our tree?  These stickers are badges of honor, and should be encouraged and displayed as such don't you think?

The reason I like using and clicking on these stickers is it let's me hyperlink back and forth to useful project tools and or WikiTools.  I then can jump right back to where I was.  The stickers are AWSOME at quickly getting us around WikiTree!

Thanks!

Kirt

Comments

Stickers are part of the biography text and can be placed anywhere in the text. They don't have to be placed at the top. If profile is set to Private, they can't be seen, just like the rest of the biography. It sounds like you would want a dummy biography or text to be shown with just the templates.

Any information on profiles of living individuals, ie children, can't be seen, but if you have included information about those same living people in an open biography, such as your own member profile biography, then the information is seen because the profile is 'open'.

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Linda,  

So we have "Project Member Badges" up in the badge notification area. This badge is for a project members only.   What is the difference between a project and a One Name Study sticker?  They take you to the same placed.  Rather than take me to the members page and then click on the project, I want to go directly to the project. Both require members to work collectively and the sticker or badge helps us move around.   Where the sticker is placed in the Bio section of the profile is of lesser importance than the tool the sticker provides.  It's such a waste to allow this sticker tool attachment, and then hide it, when it displays nothing of personal information.

I thought it an oversite.  I'll work around it.

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I think the badges feature is only available for those who login to WikiTree. It would be interesting to ask if this could be enabled for all profiles, but the next hurdle would be to ensure all users could award a badge that would be similar to the current sticker and template mechanism already in place. I don't know if they might consider it, but it never hurts to ask. It does seem like it might require a fairly large effort to test this out.

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Project member badges on member profiles are from projects you joined, as a member, or have been awarded for different reasons. They are different than stickers and project boxes that are put on profiles created by the members. Those are done to identify those people as being included in some group. The stickers arent the same as project badges.  Only leaders can add a badge to member profiles.

Answer 1

The stickers are part of the biography. So if you set the privacy level so the biography is private, then the stickers won't be visible except to the trusted list.

It would be complicated to change this, because some profile managers might want stickers to be public despite the biography being private (as you have argued), but other profile managers might want the stickers to stay hidden (perhaps because they do want the stickers in future, but not until the whole biography is ready.)

The present rule, that the whole biography is either fully private or fully public, is easy to understand and to implement technically.

Comments

Agreed. This would be a technical enhancement request, likely meaning either a separate section for the stickers and templates, or some way to identify them as separate from all the rest, which sounds like a fairly significant development effort. I'm sure you could request it, but since we already have a mechanism in place (the privacy restrictions can be altered), then I suspect it would be a lower priority and we might have to wait a long time for something like this.

Answer 2

I hope I'm understanding your question correctly.

I do believe that the Privacy Level would need to be set to "Private with Public Biography and Family Tree". This is because the Stickers are a part of the Biography.

Your current setting only allows for the view of your "Basic" Profile information along with your basic tree information (I hope I explained this one okay).

Setting your privacy level to the one I had mentioned only adds/opens up the Biography information that includes the Stickers.

If you look at my profile page, you'll see the difference...

~Brian Kerr

Answer 3

I came here to post the same thing. When I first signed up, I believe my biography setting had to be public with biography open. Now we have the section to communicate with other genealogists so it's not necessary to keep the biography open. I feel like if we are alive, our biography should be private so we can be free to type up the story of our lives... when it's most accurate. That means all stickers are private and I can't think of a situation where they need to be. Is there a way that they can be displayed in the genealogist communication area or displayed public if they are above the biography label? I just tested one in the genealogist communication area and it works just fine so the question is, will it show up on an error report if it's there and not in the biography?

Comments

The Genealogy section at the top of a member profile is limited in characters. While Stickers may actually in this area, they are not intended to be used here and members will struggle to add the amount of stickers they may be using currently (there are members who have 10+ and even larger amounts).

RE: Error reports  - I do not believe that they are configured to assess the Genealogy section (at least as far as I know).

Now we have the section to communicate with other genealogists so it's not necessary to keep the biography open. I feel like if we are alive, our biography should be private so we can be free to type up the story of our lives... when it's most accurate. That means all stickers are private and I can't think of a situation where they need to be. 

Stickers are intended to support the biography. So if there was a feeling that bio contents should be hidden, wouldn't that also mean that stickers should also remain hidden since they support the bio text?

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Below is the description on the help page (the bold is my understanding of the intended usage)... with a privatized biography, it would be difficult to use in that manner:

“Stickers are used for honoring a person or otherwise highlighting something that's deemed to be important about them. When used on members' own account profiles they can be used casually — you're encouraged to have fun with them and highlight anything you want other members and visitors to know about you.“

I still feel we should be able to have them public without exposing the biography and I’d still love to see an an example of a situation where you wouldn’t want them public. I don’t have any on mine that would be a privacy concern but perhaps there are some. Some stickers already have different options for living vs non-living.

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This type of change would affect every profile on WikiTree, so would have to be carefully discussed and reviewed by the community, then the Team would have to decide if it could be technically supported. Personally, I think this defeats the purpose of Privacy and have a feeling it would not be approved.

Also, there are already ways that this type of display can be achieved (by commenting out <!--anything--> you do not want to show to the public).