The Yingling Genealogy by Claude J. Rahn (Revised)

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For those researching the Yingling family, be sure to check out Claude J. Rahn's "The Yingling Genealogy". This was originally published in 1958, and I have created a new version that you can access and download here. This version has been reformatted and re-indexed and includes a few minor updates and additions (mostly my family).  (I also have a version that is an (almost) exact reproduction of the original book. Contact me if you're interested in that.) You should be able to print a good copy of this book on your own printer. I may be getting some copies professionally printed for my family in the next couple of months and would be willing to get extra copies for anyone who might be interested - just let me know.

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Thank you for posting this information. I created a WikiTree source page that references your page, and includes additional information. See: The Yingling Genealogy

I see you also uploaded it to archive.org, which is great, because we can now link directly to an individual page within the book. (This type of linking can not be done with a PDF file.)

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Great - thanks Rick!

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As an FYI, other than the version I created, there is only one other place that I know of where you can download the complete copy (so you can print it), and that's the one at //personal.ems.psu.edu/... However, that copy was taken from the HathiTrust site, which only allows downloads to members (not sure who they are), so that copy at psu.edu may technically be violating HathiTrust's / Google's restrictions. My motivation in starting from scratch and creating a separate copy was to eliminate these restrictions / copyright issues and provide a copy to people who wanted to print it. It also incidentally provides a higher quality image since it was created from a Word document and provides for more reliable searches. (Interesting to see the version on Ancestry - I hadn't found that before. But it looks like you can only download a page at a time.)

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Thank you very much for sharing this! :-)

I do see that there's alternative ways in obtaining a copy of this publication for free.

The following is one of those ways it can be obtained in a handful of different formats.

https://www.archive.org/details/the-yingling-genealogy-1958-reformatted

Just an FYI in case others are not aware of.

~Brian Kerr

Answer 2

Question- does this infringe the original authors work?

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Hi Marion,

I'm not sure so I might need some help on this one. Is this the book he is mentioning? If it is..the front page states : "We have determined this work to be in the public domain, meaning that it is not subject to copyright. Users are free to copy, use, and redistribute the work in part or in whole".

Does this mean that it is ok?

Thanks for any help.

Kindest regards, Pam

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This is the bit I am wondering about

Public Domain, Google-digitized

http://www.hathitrust.org/access_use#pd-google

We have determined this work to be in the public domain, meaning that it is not subject to copyright. Users are free to copy, use, and redistribute the work in part or in whole. It is possible that current copyright holders, heirs or the estate of the authors of individual portions of the work, such as illustrations or photographs, assert copyrights over these portions. Depending on the nature of subsequent use that is made, additional rights may need to be obtained independently of anything we can address. The digital images and OCR of this work were produced by Google, Inc. (indicated by a watermark on each page in the PageTurner). Google requests that the images and OCR not be re-hosted, redistributed or used commercially. The images are provided for educational, scholarly, non-commercial purposes.

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Thanks Marion, that's really helpful. There is a map on page 18, there are no other photo's or illustrations in the book. Perhaps it might be easiest to remove the map, or maybe Tom would be keen to obtain the necessary permissions. Thanks for your help with this subject, I'm Tom's greeter and have been chatting with him about the book and he just wants to share his additions with other Yingling enthusiasts, he has no intention of commercial gain.

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Thanks Pam, copyright is such a pain!

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Excellent question! Yes this is a version of Rahn's book that was digitized & OCR'd by Google and made available to HaithiTrust.  I have relied on the statement at the beginning of the Google version (as noted by Marion): "We have determined this work to be in the public domain, meaning that it is not subject to copyright. Users are free to copy, use, and redistribute this work in part  or in whole. …" Since Google has apparently placed restrictions on their version, I decided to create my own by going through the laborious process of OCR'ing my own copy and then reformatting it (and re-indexing it so that I could make updates). I can't see that I would need permission from Google, since I am not using their version.  There was also a version published by Janice Yingling in 2001 which does not have any copyright notices on it either.  (Actually, if that had still been in print, I probably wouldn't have felt compelled to create my own version!)  Let me know if there's anything else I can do.  And if we have a copyright specialist in the audience it would be good to hear from them!

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Thanks to both Tom and Brian!  My 2X great-grandmother was a Huntingdon County Yingling.  I still haven't identified her parents and maybe this will help.

I should say her parents needed confirmation and this might help.