Help us choose and improve next week's Connection Finder profiles: The Golden Globes [closed]

Question

We are featuring Ingrid Bergman, actress and Golden Globe winner, in the Connection Finder next week in conjunction with the upcoming Golden Globes awards.

In addition, we're looking for profiles of other Golden Globe winners to feature alongside her. Here are a few of the people we're getting started on:

• Fred Astaire
• Lois Maxwell
• Pier Angeli

Can you help with these profiles, or expand their families? Adding relatives in any direction helps with connections. Every missing relative you add will make our connections to them closer.

Who else should we feature? Do they need a profile?

All profiles we feature need a good biography and a connection to the big tree. We also want each one to have an image, and the image needs to have proper source attribution explaining why it's in the public domain or why we have the right to display it.

We can't feature everyone mentioned (we only have room for eight per week), but if we don't feature a profile you work on, we may use it sometime in the future. And, of course, all contributions help improve our shared tree.

We'll make a final decision on which ones to feature early next week.

Please reply here with what you're working on so that we don't duplicate our efforts. Thank you!

To help us plan future themes, see the 2021 Example Profile Plans post here.

Comments

The stamps on Ingrid's profile are copyrighted, as are all US stamps after 1971.

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If you don't feel comfortable removing them, Isabelle, I can once I'm back at the computer.

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That's OK, I removed them - but I wanted to give a heads-up before :-)

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Having gone to the effort (several years ago) to connect Ingrid to the Tree, I approve of this choice. (Furthermore, I am pleased to note that she is connected in a few different directions now -- not just by the connection I created.)

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I added more tree to Lois Maxwell. Her paternal side is looking decent now. One of those lines added another connection point in 1800's England. I'll try to get back to her and finish the paternal line if I can find a little time, and then see what can be done with her maternal side.

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Well, I've gone as far as I think I can with her tree. I'm short 1 Great-Grandmother and 4 Great-Great Grandparents, but it's much better now.

The missing Great-Grandmother - I have plenty of information on her, but there's one document that troubles me. She is reputedly Pemela, Pamela, Permela, Permelia and some show Carmela for her first name and McIntosh for her last. BUT - there is an 1851 New Brunswick Census that shows her living in N.B. with a 6 month old girl named Ann. Now I can't tell if she's single with a child and no father in the picture, or if she's married and the father isn't on the Census (she's listed as a servant with her child in the household of the family she serves), or if perhaps she's divorced at that point. By 1851, she would have been 30 years old, so anything is possible. It does appear that she married John Wells soon after that as they started having children by 1853.

Either way, I can't find the parents of John Wells (born 1813 in England and immigrated to Canada) or Pemelia McIntosh (born 1805 in Ontario), so I'm not sure how much good it would do to add her as a McIntosh (as I've found most family trees have done - taking the easy road) or wait and try to add her with a LNAB that is proven. At the moment, I'll leave her blank.

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Oh and I've got lots of children sourced out that could be added for each of her ancestors... If I only had more time...

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Thanks for connecting her, Ellen. I should be able to add some more to her Swedish side.

Answer 1

I took the opportunity to spruce up the category:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Golden_Globe_Winners_of_the_20th_Century

It should have several additional choices, although it is certainly not comprehensive. There are several living Notables in there that we're not able to use (for obvious reasons), but at least 100 others who are potentials. There could still be others that might be in sister categories like:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Golden_Globe_Award_Winners

And still others that I haven't found an opportunity to get to that still need to be put in. If you want a master list, Wikipedia seems to have a pretty good list here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Golden_Globe_winners

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I'm good with that, considering 98% of those in the 21st Century categories would be mostly living, and of little use until they pass away other than serving to help identify them - which we're trying not to do at the moment. I'll put a proposal together for discussion and give it a week and then see if we can push all the "Century" categories down to a central one. Would definitely make it easier to find these candidates in the future.

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Jose Ferrer is the only connected one in that list. It would be great to work on connecting some of the others, but it will probably be too late for next Tuesday.

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Thanks for doing that, Scott - I suppose the same thing may be done with Academy Awards and others in the same format while we're at it.

@Melanie sorry for the barrage of slightly off-topic messages - we'll stop now, I think.

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Not at all off topic!  I'm loving it -- and in need of a break from the research I've been doing trying to Connect Ewart.

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Indeed, you are well placed to know how hard it is to "get someone connected" (unless they are descended from old American families or closely related to such).

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Frank Capra (Director) is another Italian and I believe he's connected.

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Ugh - Deborah Kerr's LNAB is wrong... I'll see if the PM can fix it.

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Indeed, you are well placed to know how hard it is to "get someone connected" (unless they are descended from old American families or closely related to such).

commented by Isabelle Martin

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I've done reasonably well with some Australian, and English folk - and one Canadian (except, the week he was nominated for inclusion got cancelled).

Right now I'm looking for information on a woman whose cause of death was being stabbed in the chest by her husband --- hence the need for a break.

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I second Isabelle's nomination of --

Jack Cardiff OBE - born England, died England.  Has the kind of "fact fact fact" bio I run away from, no picture, but he IS Connected.

Ronnie Colman - born England, died California.  Has bio, has picture, IS Connected.

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Oh yes, I know you've connected a number of them  but still it's usually a dedicated effort of at least two or three days, I think.

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Minimum days, yes. Ewart is taking much longer, and it still may be dud effort.  

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I've uploaded a profile pic for Jack Cardiff -- cropped from the Creative Commons photo on his Wikipedia page.

Answer 2

I'll throw out the "usual suspects", but I know these are likely to be some of the same ones that are used for other EPOW's as they're often more "popular" choices. This is more "my opinion" than anything else, so maybe it's "my list" of the usual suspects:

Rita Hayworth

Anne Baxter

Kirk Douglas

Alec Guinness

Olivia De Havilland

Henry Fonda

Judy Garland

Anne Bancroft

Grace Kelly

Susan Hayward

Marilyn Monroe

John Wayne

Burt Reynolds

Audrey Hepburn

Frank Sinatra

Elizabeth Taylor

Comments

More recent deaths might be worth exploring:

Cloris Leachman

Mary Tyler Moore

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I second the nomination of Cloris Leachman!

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I gave her a photo, but she will need some help on her biography. I'll take a look and see how challenging it might be to put a nice bio in place.

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I probably won't get to it in time, but I know we have an old Cloris biography at our library (where I'm the non-fic librarian :-) ) since she was an Iowan. Most libraries have deleted that one, but she's technically a local so we held onto it. I am sure I can pull plenty from it with time. It's okay if the bio isn't much for this particular week since she isn't the main feature.

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I started a biography and got up into the 1980's, but getting a bit split between commitments. I can't promise I'll make it back to her before next week, but at least she has a decent start on her bio.

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Mickey Rooney

Cary Grant

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Kirk Douglas died just one year ago and hasn't been featured - at least, not recently.

Answer 3

Please consider including Diahann Carroll https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Johnson-87115

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Hmm... I would have sworn that she was used for a fairly recent EPOW, but I can't find her listed anywhere for one. Good choice! I'll second her as well. :)

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She may have been nominated, but didn't make the final selection.

I'll third it!  

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I'm pretty sure she hasn't been featured yet. The only trouble is - she shares a husband with Pier Angeli (well, not "shares" exactly, but you see what I mean) so her connection would be extremely similar.

Answer 4

Peter Finch as the token non-American. He's connected and has a bio. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Finch-1535

Answer 5

Ingmar Bergman also received a Golden Globe, as director. His profile does not have a photo yet, but that should be easily resolved. He has a good profile otherwise, and his profile is well-connected to the tree.

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Drat! He was only nominated. Barbra Streisand won the director award that year.

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How about Bernardo Bertolucci? He is also a director, and he won the Golden Globe. Not only that, but he has a decent profile, with a photo, and he is connected to the tree.

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The only thing disappointing about his profile is the obvious lack of primary sources. Of course, I'm a complete DUD when it comes to finding Italian sources, so I should be quiet, but it would be nice if someone could come up with a birth or maybe even a marriage certificate for him that could make his profile a bit more complete.

But I'll support his nomination. He's an interesting choice. Looks like he won the Academy Award and the Golden Globe for "The Last Emperor". I think I might have seen it or at least parts of it, but it felt like a really long show and I might have seen a squirrel go by during the show. It was one of those shows you really have to pay attention to I believe. Oh well.

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Kind of fascinating - he's got Australian roots somewhere. Wonder if that's where his connections run through...?

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Yes, the connection for Bertolucci is through the Australian side of his family...

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I gave Ingmar Bergman an image. I'm not expecting two Swedes in the same lineup, though :-)

I wonder if it's appropriate to list his still living children in the bio?

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There would be another Swedish possibility - Inger Stevens, but since she doesn't have a profile it's probably too late for her.

I like the idea of including (often overlooked) directors in the lineup and Bertolucci is a great choice.

I refrained from suggesting Marcello Mastroianni (another actor) since there is already one Italian-born person in the suggested lineup. And he doesn't even have parents, something I can't do anything about. (on the other hand, he's hot).

Answer 6

Rutger Hauer was born in the Netherlands and is connected. (But Fred Astaire is really more my cup of tea - looking forward to him!)

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I really loved Rutger Hauer in that love story about the girl who was turned into a Hawk and he was turned into a wolf, but on opposite times so that they could never see each other again... oh yes. Ladyhawke! Now I've got to watch that again. I still think that was one of his best films.

Answer 7

I took a look at Fred Astaire's profile.  https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Austerlitz-2

It is ..um... messy and mostly references ancestry trees with http://trees.ancestry.com, etc

and the link is broken.  As it is PPP, I wonder how much can I fix this.  Can I remove the broken links?  and the numerous references to his birth? I mean there's 15!! It doesn't look normal to me.

Or am I not up to date with the methods used?

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Looks as though it is desperate need of gedcom cleanup.

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It is in desperate need of Gedcom cleanup - and love. I think you can work on it, just one thing - the Ancestry links should be replaced by Ancestry templates, not deleted. I can't do that particular task since I don't have Ancestry. I'll look to see if I can use the template though.

EDIT - I converted the Ancestry links to templates with the WikiTree+ tool.

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Oh I didn't know that was a tool.  I will have to hunt for that.

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but I also don't think that I can work on this

as I don't have ancestry either.