Profile Accuracy Theme of the Week: Unusual Source

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This week's theme: Unusual Source.

To participate, simply:

  1. Choose a profile that fits this week's theme.
  2. Review and improve the accuracy of the profile.
  3. Reply with an answer below to let us know which profile you chose.

Also see: Photo Sharing Theme of the Week: Wintery Fun

in The Tree House by Eowyn Walker G2G Astronaut (2.5m points)
edited by Eowyn Walker
My unusual source is one I still haven't found! My great grandparents were part of a Bruferhof community and were pulled into a lot of political issues within. A fellow member wrote a book called "The Community that Failed," which talks about a lot of those issues and I am told that the family under pseudonym is discussed at length and demonstrates some of the issues my grandfather and his siblings experienced but didn't quite understand enough to recount. The book is out of print, and no one has a copy. I finally moved somewhere where the library system has a copy and once I have more time I'll be looking for it and scanning it.

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+22 votes
When I read this topic, I immediately thought of the inheritance disputes of Franz Fickbaum's daughters and grandchildren in 1784.
One of these grandchildren (Anna Catharina Elias) was married to Hans Jochim Knaack in Stubben, Eichede, district Stormarn, Schleswig-Holstein. I had found everything to her husband, but only the marriage of the two for her. I knew neither where she came from nor where she died.
Then, while researching farm records in the Schleswig-Holstein State Archives, I happened to find court records from the Steinhorst office; namely, the inheritance disputes of the grandchildren of Franz Fickbaum in Niendorf an der Stecknitz; instigated by an illegitimate grandson.

And in these court files the whole family history was worked out over three generations. A goldmine for me, from which I could derive the family history and where I now knew where to research further, when I realized that Anna Catharina Elias was one of those grandchildren.
So the profile I chose to improve this week was this Anna Catharina Elias.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Elias-468
by Dieter Lewerenz G2G Astronaut (3.1m points)
That is really fascinating.  What a great find. Thank you for sharing that story.
+32 votes

When I entered my grandmother's stepfather, Herb Kittell, into Familysearch, the helpful computer suggested a source. This, of course, is not very unusual. But I was surprised when I saw what the source was: Dogs Registered and Licensed in the Town of Hancock for the Year 1883.

I still haven't found Herb's birth record: census records indicate that he was born in either 1859 or 1860, in either October or December, in either Hancock, Massachusetts, or Stephentown New York.

I haven't found a death record, either, but today my free access to Newspapers.com located a report of his funeral, which occurred on Wednesday 15 May 1935 at the Stephentown Baptist Church; Mr. and Mrs. Fred Jones sang "No Night There" and "Nearer Still Nearer."

But I can tell you that on 27 April, 1883, Herbert Kittell paid $2 for a license for a black shepherd dog, a male named Gyp. How's that for accuracy?

by Joyce Vander Bogart G2G6 Pilot (199k points)
edited by Joyce Vander Bogart
Somehow reminds me of Swedish muster rolls for some cavalry regiments some years where you learn more about the horse than about the soldier.
I've found something similar with 19th century Irish dog licenses. For most of the century, the records all focus on the primary tenant of each piece of property, so odd things like this help to tell you about other family members who were still living - and walking their dogs!
+21 votes

https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Hutton-1660-3

My most unusual source has been the Pennsylvania Signature Quilt that was given to my second great grandparents Adaline Hutton and John D. McIntire when they married and moved away in 1845. This quilt is large and has spaces for 49 names, and it has been a wonderful help for me to find my family names. I will work this week on both of my second great grandparents profiles for accuracy. 

by Alexis Nelson G2G6 Pilot (848k points)
Wow alexis what a beautiful Quilt

Thank you for sharing
That is gorgeous.  What a treasure!
Thank you Susan, after my great grandmother’s house burned, this quilt was given to her by her cousin. Her cousin must have felt sorry for her, and wanted her to have the family quilt.
Thank you Kathy, I feel very lucky to have this quilt.
You are one creative girl!!!
+18 votes

My lucky break was when an I was randomly sent a couple of photos in the mail by distant cousin that actually had a family tree on the reverse drawn by her grandmother that firmly confirmed all my conjectures of the previous twenty years.  The photo itself wasn't unusual, but the actual family tree is unusual and such a fantastic source.

This is Mabel Eliza Taylor Shattuck:

by Jennifer Gonnuscio G2G6 Mach 3 (32.7k points)
+17 votes
The most incredible, surprising, and wonderful source, I have encountered, here on WikiTree, is Jillaine's https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Smith-32867 comprehensive study of  Schewennigen families, and their connection to our American ancestry.  Her contributions to our shared family tree are nothing short of incredible.  Her efforts to resolve and catalogue the records and lives of Buffalo German families are also extremely important.  She is a WikiTree treasure.
by Mark Weinheimer G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
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My great grandfather's maternal family tree, pictured here::https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Seibel-350 has been a wonderful resource.  Unfortunately, the procedure for adding images to the G2G, is as clear as mud.  All of my efforts have ended in frustration, despite the multiple efforts of WikiTree volunteers, for which I am extremely grateful.  Why  is it not possible to simply add a link?
by Mark Weinheimer G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
edited by Mark Weinheimer

Here it is.

Thank you, Joyce!
That is a really artistic rendering.  You are very lucky to have that!
Thank you, Kathy.  He was an architect, and when he retired, he would sketch the River, from the porch of my granparents' house, where he had come to live.  I also have a bunch of blueprints of the family tree, he made.
The tree posted here is amazing. I just request you check the link. The comma is breaking it.
Thanks, Steven.  I fixed the link.
Very beautiful!
I agree, I don’t even attempt to add photos anymore, it’s very frustrating.

So many people have trouble posting photos that I have set up some instructions that I hope you can follow. Here's the link I hope to see some of your interesting photos.

Thank you, Joyce.  I'll try again.
+17 votes
I wrote about unusual sources, including a medical report on Yellow Fever that included a chapter on my 3x great grandmother's family.

https://rhymeschemesanddaydreams.wordpress.com/2021/02/15/52ancestors-in-52-weeks-unusual-source/

I added sources to Arminta Stephens Cooper's profile, and added a profile for her mother.

Arminta: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stephens-7175

Catharine: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Webster-12607
by Auriette Lindsey G2G6 Mach 3 (31.6k points)
+9 votes
In keeping with my theme of using Bio Check to find a profile to improve, I looked through some of the sources. The typical ancestry.com, familysearch.org, or family records were not unusual, nor were some variant of the PM's name or Id. There was one GEDCOM import that resolved just to "Internet" and another that was "viewed records". I settled on an orphaned profile which had "To be added" as the only source, and hopefully improved https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bargar-33
by Kay Knight G2G6 Pilot (597k points)
+15 votes

This week I've been working on a complex part of my family tree, and it centers on my 3rd g-grandmother, Margaret Ann Hickman Lacy Burch. Margaret had a genealogically confusing life. She is something of a brick wall; I haven't identified her parents yet. She had 8 children with her 1st husband, Job Lacy, then after his death remarried and had 2 children with Joseph Burch. Two of her children with Lacy married siblings of Burch... which makes my head spin every time I think about it. And that's not even considering the sad and shocking manner of her death (murdered by Joseph Burch, who then committed suicide. Their youngest son, my 2g-grandfather found them after the fact). Going through the notebook and some loose papers my mother-in-law collected from 1995-2010 when she was working on my genealogy, I found 4 loose photocopied, annotated and highlighted pages from two separate pieces of correspondence, that I sourced as follows:  

* Photocopied correspondence from descendants of [[Lacy-2513 | Miles Lacy]] and [[Lacy-2520 | William James Lacy]], (one set typed, one set handwritten) (typed from Roy E. Lacy a grandson of Miles?) in Theodora Brown Chapman's notes, possibly from her 1990's research or possibly a correspondent of Charmie Granger Maffett from 1960's-1990's.

As I worked my way through them, and I'm not done yet, I realized I had stumbled on a treasure trove. I think they must have been from my grandma's research in the 60's-70's, when she was exploring her heritage to see if she could get into the DAR. I know she corresponded with some of her cousins during that time and I have copies of some of those letters as well. It looks like it was before the age of widespread home computer use. But I just don't know and my grandma is no longer around to ask.

Both sources had lists of Margaret's children with Job Lacy and at least mentioned John S. H. Burch, her youngest child and my ancestor. The handwritten notes had a more complete listing and also is one of the few sources I've found for John's older sister Eliza, or Lizzie Burch, who married John Buchanan. I have very few sources for her but this confirmed what I was able to put together from my Ancestry account. For some of the branches of this part of my tree, FamilySearch doesn't have much at all, and Ancestry gets confused by duplicate names. And honestly, John Burch married Hulda Burch, daughter of Martin Burch, and they were probably second cousins, so it was already confusing enough. This gave me the confidence to enter Eliza as a sibling for John, and confirmed the multiple Lacy/Burch intermarriages that I had been hesitant to connect before. So I have been busy with my family soap opera in Mercer County, Ohio and grateful to the people who took notes at the courthouse a long time ago, wrote it down and passed it along.

by Katherine Chapman G2G6 Mach 7 (70.2k points)
Wow, I'm impressed that you can keep all this straight. But how interesting!
+13 votes

This topic brought to mind the story of our "mail order bride" from Germany, Sophia Gergensen, a great-grandmother. We never had a clue to exactly how her marriage was arranged. A visit with an elderly cousin in Arkansas in 1999 confirmed the general story that my mother-in-law had been told, but added critical details previously unknown -- and all of a sudden tied in with another seemingly unrelated and unimportant detail from a story told by another researcher -- giving us a possible explanation of our mail order bride!

I appreciate this prompt because I didn't realize that none of this was ever entered on her WikiTree profile. I have updated her story and will try to add more to other family members during the coming days.

by Joyce Rivette G2G6 Pilot (179k points)
+9 votes
One book has been my go-to for Italian genealogy in America. The name is "Italians in Haverhill". Why? Well...

https://allroadhaverhill.blogspot.com/2021/02/52-ancestors-week-7-unusual-source.html
by Chris Ferraiolo G2G6 Pilot (764k points)
+11 votes
I don't know how unusual this is, but the group photo of my grandfather's family originally was dated 1907.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ceruti-2

We know that this date is wrong because by 1907, three of the children in the photo, who were young adults, had already passed away. The correct date of the photo is 1906, which was determined from the aggregate of the children's death data, and from the approximate ages of the family members in the photo.

We are lucky to have this photo because it is the only picture we have of some of these family members. It was fortunate that the picture was taken in 1906.
by Marion Ceruti G2G6 Pilot (358k points)
+8 votes
I created the profiles of Mary  (Harris) Finney (1792-) and Samuel  Finney (1784-) from a old sampler I found at a swap meet.  I did not buy it but took a picture - with permission - and put it out as a source with the shops card.  I have not been able to find more information on them as there is no location but I figured some day an ancestor will find it interesting.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Finney-927

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Harris-22805
by Catherine Ryan G2G6 Mach 3 (33.2k points)
+8 votes

I decided to update the profiles of my 3rd Great Granparents, Harrison Dodge and Martha Webb, with some relatively new information with unusual sources. It turns out that one of their sons (no idea which one) had a daughter out of wedlock that no one knew about.

This daughter, Hazel Dowdy (nee DeMoss) was only discovered recently through DNA, along with some oral history passed down through her family.

by Chandra Garrow G2G6 Mach 7 (70.5k points)
+8 votes

My fifth great grandfather Philip  Champion Crespigny (1765-1851) married four times. I have just added his first wife Sarah  (Cocksedge) Champion Crespigny (1733-1768) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cocksedge-132 to the tree. I was inspired to do so by coming across the following record at the UK National Archives: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/90c3737b9dae4844b191c2ce985ecb6e 

Type of seal: Personal: Armorial. Seal owner: Philip Champion Crespigny. Date of...

Reference: PRO 23/4958
Description:
Type of seal: Personal: Armorial.

Seal owner: Philip Champion Crespigny.

Date of original seal: 1766.

Colour of original seal: Red.

Physical format: Plaster mould cast from original seal.

Date: [1880-1995]
Related material: For parent document please see SP 108/556

Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record
Dimensions: 2.5cm x 2.2cm

The seal includes the Champion de Crespigny shield but with arms in the middle which are almost certainly those of Cocksedge. Philip married Sara Cocksedge in 1762. There are six quarterings and the first shows clearly a cock.

I found a description of the Cocksedge arms at Thomas Martin; Richard Gough (1779). The History of the Town of Thetford, in the Counties of Norfolk and Suffolk, from the Earliest Accounts to the Present Time. J. Nichols. page. 85 via Google Books https://books.google.com.au/books?id=umLHAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA85&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false 

I have been able to reproduce the Cocksedge arms through https://drawshield.net/create/index.html 

I cannot decipher the fifth and sixth quarterings though. Sarah Cocksedge's mother was Lydia Burgess but I have not been able to trace any relevant Burgess arms.

by Anne Young G2G6 Mach 9 (95.2k points)
+7 votes

I've been thinking about an "unusual source" since last weekend and hadn't really come up with anything.  My grandmother Sallie Dodson Armstrong had a birthing apron, which I can't quite put my fingers on, but I would love to look up the names and birth dates that are inscribed on that apron.  While still trying to figure out where I've packed her apron, her son, Erick Armstrong died on Monday.  I won't add his wives because they are living, but I found that his second wife's family has no profiles on WikiTree, except for Henry Hilshorst which I adopted.  After spending a couple of afternoons finding sources on Hilshorsts, I came to the conclusion that there are several Henry Hilshorsts, born in similar time periods in Kentucky and Ohio.  My aunt Jane is my unusual source, since she gave me the details she knew about her family and has helped me connect the dots for her daughter and grandson.  On to adding Hilshorsts...

Editted for link to Erick Armstrong.

by Kathy Zipperer G2G6 Pilot (471k points)
+7 votes

The most unusual sources of information that I have used to find/confirm genealogy information are 1) United States Census Mortality Schedules, 2) a transcription of an "Old Dutch Church of Sleepy Hollow" record book, and 3) a copy of an application to apply for a federal job that my grandfather completed in the 1950s.  

Each of these sources are not very odd by themselves, but they gave me very critical information to help with making important links between people, and provided information that wasn't available through any other source.  

My reactions when I discovered these sources were: Mortality Schedules - Who knew these existed?!? (I was pretty new to genealogy research at the time); Sleepy Hollow church records - Wow! TONS of information here, and so thankful that someone had already gone through the book to glean out/summarize the records of the surname I was researching; Federal Job application form - Compiling the information for this must have been a terrible chore to complete, but what a GOLDMINE of information it contains, and all on just 5 pages!

For the entire 2 years that I've been doing genealogy research, I have been slowly chipping away at a brick wall regarding my paternal great-grandmother's family: when did her father die, what was her mother's maiden name, why did the family suddenly vanish, and who are her mother's people? Each of these not-as-commonly-used sources above were critical to finally smashing through several portions of that wall.

So the profiles I chose to work on and polish up this week are my paternal great-grandmother's parents, Richard Harvey and Hanna Ann (See) Harvey Brower.

by Charlene Mulligan G2G6 Mach 1 (19.6k points)
+8 votes

My unusual source is a newspaper article about the wedding of my husband's parents 1935. What makes it unusual is that the bride's parents were both deceased so she was given away by her uncle Frank Hutchen. Frank was managing editor of the local newspaper and on the day following the wedding he printed a report detailing very many of the guests, where they lived, their relationships to the bride and groom, what they did for a living, an absolute mine of information. Also detailed was a list of every single wedding present, who gave it and where they were from. Included in this list were such treasures as 'Billy Asbrey (pageboy) hot water bottle' and 'Mrs Moore ironing board' There is so much information I can use to piece together or perhaps disentangle all the many cousins and 'in-laws' 

by Gillian Loake G2G6 Mach 5 (59.7k points)
Nobody ever gave me an ironing board for a wedding present.
+6 votes

I wondered a bit which profile to use for the topic Unusual source. Then I remembered I created profiles for the daughters of the first Yugoslav Prime Minister after the death of Tito. And for one of them I had found her years of death on the website of the Academy of Performing Arts in Sarajevo, where she had studied acting. In the Serbian sources I found about her nowhere was written on which date she really died. But all of them say she died in that year. And the Serbian Vital Records are by law not allowed to be put online. (Sometimes my thoughts about the Serbian Archival Law are not printable...) 

I had googled once more for maybe some more stuff about her and found an interview with her just after she had finished the Academy and started working for the Bosnian TV.

by Jelena Eckstädt G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
+7 votes

One of my most unusual sources was a podcast. I was listening to a genealogy podcast where the hosts commonly go over case studies that they are currently working on or have worked on in the past. Last March I was listening on my way home from work when they started talking about John Johnson in North Carolina. So I listened a little closer as I have Johnson's from that area in my ancestry - but Johnson is a very common name. Then they mentioned Abraham Johnson from Burke County, his wife Jane, and that he had supposedly lived to the age of 105 and then I knew they were talking about my 5x Great Grandfather Abraham Johnson! I mentioned this on Facebook and was then able to get a copy of the report on Abraham's father John Johnson which also gives sources for Jane's maiden name. 

I have now found his profile and attached him as father to my 4xGreat Grandmother Frances "Frankie" (Johnson) Buchanan and will work on improving their profiles.

by Emily Holmberg G2G6 Pilot (155k points)

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