Should John Andrews be a PGM Adjunct?

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Should John Andrews, cooper from Boston be identified as a PGM adjunct? Or if we agree that the sources connecting him to Charlestown are valid should John Andrews be PGM? There is one source that places him in Charlestown 1637, but Savage begins his entry about John in 1653 and John is not listed in the Great Migration Directory.
WikiTree profile: John Andrews
in Genealogy Help by Bill Pease G2G6 Mach 1 (19.4k points)
edited by Bill Pease

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Pope's Pioneers of Massachussetts also puts him in Charlestown in 1637.

I wonder if it would be possible to find the document that Wyman and Pope are referencing? There were are two other John Andrews in the Directory, one in Ipswich (with a different wife), and the other in Kittery. I wonder if either was a cooper, as that seems to be a helpful identifying factor.

There are some (not very many) people that Anderson missed, so it would not be without precedent.
by S Willson G2G6 Pilot (145k points)
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There are a lot of John Andrews on WikiTree. I will take some time this weekend to see if any are duplicates. Has anyone else looked at these profiles?
I was referring to vital records type searches online, but that might be a good option too.

I'll take a look on WikiTree now. There probably aren't that many in the earliest years in Massachusetts.
I found the Land Records. They show the name as Mr. Andrews. I will add it to the profile. Perhaps there is another entry as well tying that person to John Andrews.

There was a subsequent land sale in 1657, but I don't see anything further in this source identifying with certainty that "Mr. Andrews" was John Andrews, cooper, who later married Lucy and Hannah.
I looked at the John Andrews profiles and this is the only John from Boston. There are several John’s from Ipswich, but that is a question for another day.
You have just about convinced me that this John definitely first settled in Charlestown 1637. One problem: Charlestown is a common initial landing place for colonists at this time, and There do appear to be other John Andrews besides this one and the well researched Leut. John of Ipswich.
It might be worth posting another G2G asking about the veracity of the Wyman source, and whether other people interpret it as definitive that John Andrews, cooper = "Mr. Andrews" appearing in the land records...
Sounds like a good idea. I just posted the other question and modified this question to be about PGM Adjunct or PGM.
I have made suggested edits based on this discussion and the discussion about the Wyman source. I now understand why Anderson and Savage do not suggest that this John Andrews was in Charlestown as early as 1637. It makes sense that a different Andrews was the early settler of Charlestown and 15-20 years later this John Andrews came to Boston, probably from England or Wales and had frequent dealings with a fellow cooper, James Mirick in Charlestown.

The conclusion is then that John should get the PGM Adjunct box as he has disputed origins that might lead someone to think he should be included in the PGM project.
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I have permission from the profile manager to add the PGM Adjunct box. What is the next step?
by Bill Pease G2G6 Mach 1 (19.4k points)

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