I need to know how to "attach" a new set of parents to the child?

Question

I changed a set of parents to uncertain after finding a better source. I need to add the what I believe is a better possible set.

Child: Mary Hendry (Hendry-1120)

Wrong Father Alexander (Hendry-1122)   (Birth Doc)

Wrong Mother Mary Duncan (Duncan-1756)

2nd Farther John Hendry     (Death Doc)

2nd Mother Mary Ferguson

Comments

I think the 1st set may be correct.

Mary, daughter of Hendry and Ferguson born 1840 ?

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Name: Mary Henry Gender: Female Baptism Date: 16 Feb 1840 Baptism Place: , Kirkmichael, Ayr, Scotland Father: John Henry Mother: Mary Fergusson FHL Film Number: 1041390, 0102844 Source Information Ancestry.com. Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.

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Glen -- -- Why do you think the parents are NOT Alexander Hendry and Mary Duncan?

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The profile for Mary states she was born on the 11th February 1852, in Barony.  There is one registration for that date in Barony, and the parents are Alexander Hendry and Mary Duncan. https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Church registers - Old Parish Registers Births and baptisms - Search results

Surname: HENDRY; Forename: MARY; Parents/ Other Details: ALEXANDER HENDRY/MARY DUNCAN FR3797 CHILD 1 (FR3797); Gender: F; Date: 11/02/1852; Parish Number: 622/ ; Ref:140 378; Parish: Barony

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Likewise, for the death -- there is a registration for a Mary Hendry that matches one for Mary Bryson, in 1937, with an age that matches a birth in 1852:

Statutory registers - Deaths - Search results

1. Surname: HENDRY; Forename: MARY; Age at death: 85; Mother's Maiden Name: ; Year: 1937; Ref: 578/1 819; RD Name: Ayr
2. Surname: BRYSON; Forename: MARY; Age at death: 85; Mother's Maiden Name: ; Year: 1937; Ref: 578/1 819; RD Name: Ayr

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 If those are not the parents, then the birth / baptismal date on the profile is either incorrect, or she wasn't registered/baptised at that time.

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Those are the parents I believe to be correct; John Hendry and Ferguson. Your source make me very sure. I have the Scotland death record.= which gives a dth dae of 28 Dec 1934 or 37 with those parents.

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I have an obituary, Arkansas Times, 17 Oct 1938 for Mary Hendry (m: Clancy) Born 11 Feb 1952 in Glasgow to Alexander Hendry and Mary Duncan Hendry,; Arrived US 1854 to Michigan and then to Arkansas 1866.

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Glen, I see that you removed the parents you think are wrong.  Please add a research note to Mary's profile about that, linking to them, since it has apparently not been definitely determined who the correct parents are.

Also, I have not looked into this at all and am not all that knowledgeable about this kind of stuff, but it sounds to me like there may be 2 people named Mary Hendry, one with each set of parents.  Can you determine for sure that there isn't a bit of conflation going oh here?

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I added a comment, I looks to me like there are two Mary Hendry's born in 1852. One to Alexander (and Duncan) that immigrated to the US and died in Arkansas in 1938, and one born to John (and Ferguson) who died in Dec 1937 in Ary, Scotland. I do not have the skill or resources to sort that out.

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There are 5 births/baptisms for a Mary Hendry for 1852 -- only one of which is in Barony - and none of them have a mother's last name Ferguson.

The one that matches the birth date on the profile, in Barony, has parents Alexander Hendry and Mary Duncan.

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Well Melanie, I am totally confused by this one. The death record you have is for Ary, Scotland?  If it is the same one I see on Ancestry the mother is Mary Ferguson. What has me eliminating Alexander- Mary Duncan is the Arkansas Death Cert and the newspaper obit which matches Mary Hendry  and Alexander and Mary Duncan to a tee. Arkansas Death Certificates 1914-1969, Year 1938 Roll 5., Repository, Ancestry.com. The 11 Feb 1852 DOB in Barony, is based on Alexander as the father,  which do not follow. I am afraid to touch it at this point. This just came to mind: I recall very clearly my mother Mary Hendry Bryson saying "how heart broken my father's (James Bryson 1887-1961) mother must have been to see all of her sons leave for America at the same time and realizing she would never see them again."   One post has a baptism record of 1840 (for John and Ferguson) which make the age on the death cert about 12 years off.  I don't know.. thank you for everyone's help... Glen

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Then you have to consider that the birth date on the profile is incorrect -- and understand that a 12 year difference is nothing.  I have ancestors who age 2 years in between census records, or 24 years in another 10 year stretch.  

If you are sure that the Ayr death is your person, then you have to work to find the correct baptism record - which isn't going to be  the one in 1852 in Barony if she demonstrably has the wrong parents.

Age didn't mean the same thing to our ancestors as it does to us. Someone may have been born the second full moon after the big fire, or the flood, or the wheat harvest.  Those things didn't necessarily have dates we could take to the  bank.  Similarly for a census, it might depend on who was giving the answers.  Information on a death record relies on the knowledge of the informant, who may not know  the decedent very well, or even at all.  You may have to buy a few certificates to follow the paper trail.  Scotland's People credits are fairly priced, and you get to download the pdf once  paid for, plus it stays on your SP account in case you lose the original data (eg change of computer).

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OK. I feel better now.  I will change the DOB to just 1852 - uncertain and John and Ferguson as parents. The death was certified by the medical attendant.. and what does he know?

Thank you

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Melanie, I think the mystery is solved,. I recalled some work my sister had done years ago and looked in the folder and found the Scotland Marriage register for William Bryson and our Mary Hendry (1872 marriages 643/ 14) It confirmed parents are John and Ferguson and Mary was 19 on 21 Jun 1872. The death registry is correct at 85/86 yrs old.   There is always a way.. Glen, thanx again..

Answer 1

if the parents are the wrong ones. Under editing under each parent's name is a button that says replace/remove click on it, scroll to the bottom and select remove. Then replace the correct parents.

Answer 2

Hey Glen,

First: what sources are you using? The profile has a weak source reference, just the name of an index.

Then. What will happen to the current parents? Are those other people then? If so, you can replace the parents by going to edit.

If the names of the parents themselves are wrong, you should change those profiles (but if I understand your list correctly, this is not the case).

'Death doc' or 'birth doc' is just a name of a type of source. Please include the full reference, including the link to the scan. Then it becomes a source reference, something others can check and discuss the options with you.

Comments

Michael, one source is Scotland, 1937 Deaths in the District of Ayr County of Ary; The other (and there are several possibles) is Scotland Selected Births 1564-1950. I removed the first set and will not enter any others without more info.

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Glen, the source references should include: name author, year/date, title document, type, location, holding library/location/website, access number/page number and preferably the direct link via a stable URL.

Scotland Selected Births 1564-1950 contains millions of records; we can not check anything with that.

Answer 3

Edit the child’s profile.

Then on the right side of the child’s profile (when in edit mode), you will see Edit Family. Under the father and mother sections you will see the option to replace/remove father or mother. Select “replace/remove father” and follow the directions on the page that loads. Repeat the process for the mother.