What does an abbreviation mean, and help finding details of son

Question

Hi

The following is the text from Charles WIlders will - "WILDERS, Charles Augustus of 51 Artesan Road, Bayswater Middlesex, died 8 July 1919 at 30 Porchester Square, Hyde Park, Middlesex, Probate: London 29 Aug to Ellen Wilders widow, Henry Frances Wilders lieutenant M.C.G and Leonard Percy Samuda clerk. Effects £3460"

What does the M.C.G. mean attached to the lieutenant that is his son.  I am struggling to find out much about Henry Frances, he was born Q4 1896 in Dartford, Kent, England.   In his mother's will he was a foreign correspondent.

There are plenty of records for marriages but all the parents for those are wrong, and I am certain that Benjamin and Ellen were his parents.  His brother Bernard I knew, and he never married.

Thanks folks

Answer 1

I  double checked the calendar, you've transposed the initials. It's M.G.C. Machine Gun Corps. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Gun_Corps

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OOps, easy to do I guess, thanks for checking tho

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Absolutely easy to do and it's always so hard to spot your own errors.

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Military Civilian Government

Answer 2

Hi Jules,

Whilst I can't identify it specifically, M.C.G. is most likely a military award Lieutenant Wilders won (If he had won the George Cross for example he's be Henry Frances Wilder G.C.) I did however find a WW1 medal card belonging to him which can be found here: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D5871405. It appears he served in the London Regiment.

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M.C. G. is Military Civilian Government

The troops that occupy conquered enemy territory and control the enemy civilian population of the area

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What may be his  personnel file is also available at the National Archives.http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_dss=range&_ro=any&_q=%22henry+francis+wilders%22

Unfortunately, you'd have to visit or pay for it to be digitised.

This blog explains a bit about how the London Regiment  and Machine Gun Corps are linked (well it  perhaps does if you are more into military terminology than I!).https://vickersmg.blog/in-use/british-service/the-british-army/london-regiment/

Answer 3

Name: Charles Wilder Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: 1868 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where born: Erith Kent England Civil parish: Northfleet County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: North Aylesford Sub-registration district: Northfleet ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 176 Piece: 895 Folio: 21 Page number: 34 Household Members Age Relationship William Wilder 33 Head Caroline Wilder 33 Wife Edward Wilder 8 Son Charles Wilder 3 Son Source Citation The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1871 England Census; Class: RG10; Piece: 895; Folio: 21; Page: 34; GSU roll: 823485

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Name: Caroline Mc Evoy Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 13 Jun 1859 Marriage Place: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, Greenwich, England Father: John Mc Evoy Spouse: William Willder Register Type: Parish Register Source Citation London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P97/MRY/091

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Name: William Willder Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 13 Jun 1859 Marriage Place: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, Greenwich, England Father: James Willder Spouse: Caroline Mc Evoy Register Type: Parish Register Source Citation London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P97/MRY/091

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Name: Henry Francis Wilders Death Date: 17 Jun 1952 Death Place: Kent, England Probate Date: 6 Sep 1952 Probate Registry: London, England Source Information Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

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Only a will abstract is in Ancestry

Estate to widow Margaret, living at 15 Gouge Avenue, Northfleet, Kent - 2016 pounds

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Name: Margaret Butcher Registration Date: Apr 1925 [May 1925] [Jun 1925] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Strood Inferred County: Kent Spouse: Henry F Wilders Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 1706 Source Citation General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 2a; Page: 1706