Man and wife purported to be grandparents of immigrant to New France, unsourced

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Pierre Ménard and his wife Marie Madeleine Forest are currently set as the parents of [[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Menard-298 Jean Ménard]], but there is no valid source for them, Jean's son Jacques came to New France and his parents are named on his marriage.  No fichier origine for Jacques.

Candidate for disconnection, seems to be conflated, all references given are trees, except Léveillé which clearly states that the relationship is unproven.

Second opinion please.
WikiTree profile: Pierre Menard
in Genealogy Help by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (412k points)

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I think the source for the parents of Jean Ménard is this document, which lists the baptism of a Jean Ménard in Notre-Dame-de-l'Esvière on 14 Mar 1589, son of Pierre Ménard and Madel Forest, and is indexed by Familysearch. The orignal record (bottom right) is a bit hard to decipher, I read: "Jehan fils de Pierre Mesnard et de Magdelaine Fortin".

So, this couple existed, the wife having a slightly different name, and had a son named Jehan, along with at least 3 other children. But there is no reason to believe that this Jehan Mesnard born in Angers is the father of Jacques Ménard from Mervent.

by Julien Cassaigne G2G6 Mach 3 (31.7k points)
interesting, there are actually 4 children listed for that couple over there.  But as you say, no evidence that this is the same man, Ménard/Mesnard is not a rare name, there are 12 men of the name who came here in 17th and 18th centuries and left descendants.  https://www.prdh-igd.com/en/ListePionniers use Menard to search with.

I read that as Fortin also.

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