Parents of george waines born abt 1835 at buckton yorkshire.

Question

wikitree states that george is the son of simeon and sarah waines but simeon died in 1931 aged 44 according to bempton church records. simeon and sarah were married in 1811. also george was not baptised and on his marriage certificate it says his father is william waines. any help please.

Answer 1

Hi 

Waines is my Grandmother's maiden name.  Most of my relatives came from the Buckton, Bempton and Driffield and Pickering areas.  I have uploaded my DNA.

My uncle Harold Dobson also married a Waines, Audrey who was related through marriage, I understand; her sister Pamela is still living in Flamborough/Bridlington as far as I know.  Harold had two children John and Sally, Sally had one daughter Zoe, who now has children of her own.

I know George Waines has done a fair bit of research on this side of the family too, he is on Wikitree,  I am mainly on MyHeritage.  This is what I have:

My grandmother 

Mary Waines June 20 1901 -1972

Her parents

Francis William Waines 18 May 1870 - 27 July 1929 I have certs and photos and uploaded them into Wikitree.  He also had a brother Francis Henry Waines 1/10/1861 who died at only a few days old.

Eliza Tock 23 July 1874.  Marriage 17th April I have marriage, death cert, photos

His Parents

George 1836-1921

Mary Jane Cowton 1843 - ?

His Parents

Simeon Waines

Sarah Jane Gage

His Parents

Robert Waines 1792-1832

Mary Wellas

His Parents

Edward Waines 1740 - ?

Susannah Medd 1740 - 1771

Answer 2

This is from the 1841 census

Name:	George Wanes
Age:	6
Estimated birth year:	abt 1835
Gender:	Male
Where born:	Buckton,Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:	Bridlington
Hundred:	Dickering
County/Island:	Yorkshire
Country:	England
Street address: Occupation:	View image
Registration district:	Bridlington
Sub-registration district:	Bridlington
Neighbors:	View others on page
Piece:	1213
Book:	8
Folio:	5
Page Number:	6
Household Members:	Name Age William Wanes 25 Sarah Wanes 45 Rachael Wanes 13 Lea Wanes 12 George Wanes 6 Adron Wanes 1 Sarah Wanes 2

Source Citation

Class: HO107; Piece: 1213; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Bridlington; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 5; Page: 6; Line: 16; GSU roll: 464216

 

Answer 3

All the evidence suggests,but  unable to confirm, George is not the son of Simeon Waines & Sarah Gage.

George's marriage certificate citing William Waines as father is part proof.

The 1841 census, is enlightening, in that George, Aaron(Adron) & Sarah are of ages years after Simeon's death, suggesting all three are grandchildren. Aaron's christening in 1840, the son of Elizabeth is proof of one.

Heading, the 1841 census is a William Waines, and by association and cicumstantial evidence, he & son George are living with Sarah, and Sarah raised George .

1851, George is a servant, but in 1861, now married, living again with Sarah. The down to this, George is described as son, but if she had raised him since very young, Sarah would see George more as a son than grandson.

Answer 4

This is from the 1861 census:

Name:	George Waines
Age:	24
Estimated birth year:	1837
Relation:	Son
Mother's name:	Sarah Waines
Gender:	Male
Where born:	Buckton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:	Buckton
Ecclesiastical parish:	York
Town:	Buckton
County/Island:	Yorkshire
Country:	England
Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage:	View image
Registration district:	Bridlington
Sub-registration district:	Bridlington
ED, institution, or vessel:	11
Neighbors:	View others on page
Household schedule number:	18
Piece:	3613
Folio:	57
Page Number:	5
Household Members:	Name Age Sarah Waines 66 Leah Waines 29 George Waines 24 Mary Jane Waines 21 Ann E Waines 10

Source Citation

Class: RG 9; Piece: 3613; Folio: 57; Page: 5; GSU roll: 543161

 

Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1861.

Answer 5

Thanks for all the info, it was most useful especially the one from Ron wood house. Thanks once again. Geoff Waines.

Answer 6

Sorry I missed out William Waines 1815 - 1885, who is the missing link he was George's father and Simeon was his father.