Question of the Week: Do you have Welsh roots? [closed]

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Question of the Week: Do you have Welsh roots? [closed]

My Welsh known connections:

Gruffudd ap Maredudd, Lord of Mawddwy is my 26th Great Grandfather.

Maredudd, King of Deheubarth is my 28th great Grandfather

Bieddri ap Dyfnwallon, "The Villein" is my 32nd great Grandfather.

Madog ap Maredudd, King of Powys

Lestyn ap Gwrgan, King of Morgannwg, 26th Great Grandfather

Owain ap Hywel Dda, son was a Prince, i take it this guy was a king. 29th Great Grandfather

Sounds so Welsh, Gwrgeneu ap Gwaeddgar, 34th great grandfather

Meig ap Cynglas is my 40th great Grandfather Year: circa 515

Owain ab Afallach is my 58th Great Grandfather. Year -40. 40 roughly years before our Lord's Birth

Tegid Tacitus ap Lago, A Roman in Wales. Says Geni.com. My 47th great Grandfather. The Year circa 295

Coel Hen ap Tegfan, King of Northern Britian sounds like a Welsh Name but was born in England. his son was Tegfan Tasciovanus ap Deheuwaint. No Brit has named these types of names. My 45th Great Grandfather. The Year 340. I have tons more kings and queens in the Welsh Kingdoms and tons of others. I am middle class and Where are my Family Jewels and my Castles. WE got Cheated, hehe, Queen Elizabeth in which she is a cousin needs to fork over some Castles and Jewels to my family. I am protesting the right to be called Prince Alvin. heh. I want my share of the family loot!!! Maybe I should go to war with these kingdoms, like my Vikings Ancestors. hehe.

commented Jun 24, 2021 by Alvin Meredith-Premus G2G Rookie (110 points)

Then, Nice to know you Cousin. Ya, I haven't placed all that I have from GENI onto Wiki. It's that thing you shouldn't put anything before 1700;s with docs. Frankly, over at GENI, many of my distant cousins know the history of Wales and speaks it. I have no documentation. But, I am reinsured that I am the grandson of these people. I added all my family members back to the 1600s that my grandmother told me as a child. And Wala, I am these descendants. But no, I don't have graphs, docs, and I don't trace. I investigate. I can't read old English, less speak new English. heh. Thus, I have not added my trees to Wiki, and hehe be critical if I don't bring with solid evidence. My distant cousins have done that since 2007. I trust them, otherwise many would YELL online at ya. I have seen that over there. BOY, i made a few mistakes and got chewed up like a rat with a cat. heh, You guys do not yell at each other here. But, NO OFFENSE, some of the features of Familysearch and Geni is a bit more easy and faster to looking up connections of what you are to that person. I find it a little harder here on Wiki. I STILL LOVE WIKI. heh

PLS, no hate mail. My best friend from H.S. in which we been friends with for over 47 years. We stop talking over the past administration. He made a fortune off of Wars in the Middle East. Regrets it now but we stop talking to each other for five years. We are now reconnecting. So I don't heh need any more hate mail. heh, I LOVE WIKI, just that, without evidence, i wasn't going to put down all my family trees here. I ask this again, WHERE IS MY FAMILY JEWELS AND CASTLES, QUEEN ELIZABETH. shhh she is hard of hearing. Or we might be like 8,000 miles away from each other. Or she has too many other relatives to give me proper status. heh From now ON, I shall be called Lord Alvin James Meredith or, Lord Homeless. Cause i don't have a few castles. HEH (Shhhhh I LOVE WIKI- just can be improved in some features. NO HATE MAIL) We are all DISTANT COUSINS. So love me.

commented Jun 25, 2021 by Alvin Meredith-Premus G2G Rookie (110 points)

HeH, This has nothing to do with Wales or The Welsh Connections. I read over geni that one of my English Great grandfathers, A Prince was sent to marry the Daughter of the King of Spain. I said, "WHAT"? I am Spanish now? Well, The king dies and That grandfather is now the British King of Spain. I have some hehe Distant cousins from South American and from Spain reaching out to me. I don't speak Spanish. My wife is from Mexico and she translated it for me. This Year, 2021. I find out that I am Ukrainian. My grandfather "Rurik" King of Sweden or Norway invaded and conquered Ukraine, ( BACK OF PUTIN- Stop attacking my people- heh) and became King of Ukraine. I find out that Alexander's father, King Phillip is a grandfather. Constantinople's Kings is my grandparents. I find out that the trees lead to Iran, Iraq, ISRAEL, and Portugal. So, i am Portuguese, Spanish, Norwegians, Swedish, Ukrainian, Iranian, Iraqi, Jewish, Turkish. It never stops. I am having a large dinner tomorrow night. I will be sitting down as the United Nations of the world since my Cake Recipe is with tons of spices in it. Meaning, indeed I have half of Europe and Asia in my blood. If I fight with myself, I will be considered crazy or we having a war within the United Nations bloodlines. Heh!!! One more story before I end tonight. Again, Nothing to do with Welsh Lines. OR MAYBE IT DOES, I read somewhere on geni that four generations of my family went on that Holy Crusaders Religion War with the Persians fighting over Jerusalem. Behold, NOT A GOOD THING!! Great Grandfather dies on the battlefield in the middle east. His son carries on and dies over there. The grandson hops over and dies for Jerusalem. STOP STOP, pls great-grandson don't go or I won't be born a thousand years later. He goes over and dies too. If I was a mother, I would suggest to the next generation. YOU NOT BECOMING A KNIGHT. its Bad luck for this family. hehe!!! It might have been Welsh or British Isles but I am sure it was the United Kingdom, somewhere. (i am from the Royalty of France too. I am not saying it was there, but, it could have been. I doubt it, but don't hold me to it.) Let's say it was Wales. heheh You really learn some stuff from the past. Its fun but think of it. I have seen so many of my ancestors DIE in BATTLE. One grandfather that was a Knight in the UK. had breakfast, kissed his wife and didn't come home that day from battle. The kingdom helped the family after he died. How sad, My tough duty is to make sure that the grass is watered. BATTLE? ME? I carry a sword in my neighborhood for protecting against coyotes because they have killed a few dogs in my area. I walk with a chihuahua named "Daisy". If the cops stop me I will say, I AM ROYALTY, My grandfathers were VIKINGS, it is our right to carry swords. I will then be arrested. hehehh Back to what I was saying, Stress? nothing to compare to our ancestors. I have a very EASY life to compare to them. I AM SPOILED. Pls do not hate me, one more off the Wales subject, and after this, I will shut up and only write about Wales. In Britain, there is a town called, "Water Eaton Castle that my grandparents had built. The oldest son got the property. For THOUSANDS OF YEARS, my lineage got all the castles. Now, I am the youngest and got nothing hehe. At age 18? 19? This son comes to the New World. He travels Water Eaton to Virginia. WHAT? An 18-year-old?? GEES, at any rate in his diary he states. The water went bad, the food has spoiled, this journey will take I think he says 8-10 weeks and 32 children have passed away. There is a storm three times larger than this clipper ship and I doubt we will make and be at the bottom of the sea by morning. HOW SCARY is that. Our ancestors had it hard. Nothing to compare to our lives today. Standing in line for 30 mins due to covid. It is bad, yes, but, heh not to grandparents hunting in snow in the middle of winters. Shhh, I will disappear like snow in springtime. I am melting and no more from your distant cousin. Now you can ban me from your platform. heh

commented Jun 25, 2021 by Alvin Meredith-Premus G2G Rookie (110 points)

Hi A.J.

I have laughed so heartily and why? Because you have said all the things that I have thought about. You are a comedian!!! Talk about a witty person.

First of all, why didn’t the royalty we descend from think about their descendants and make certain that we had castles, money, and be established with titles? I have thought of approaching Liz and telling her of our dilemma. We are her cousins and we descend from the Norman’s and nearly ever medieval King and Queen who ever lived. What is wrong with this picture? She should at least give us titles and make us Lord’s and Ladies. I mean that is the least she can do considering all the Royal blood flowing through our veins, but she can’t even answer a phone call. Ugh!

I like you never knew all the different people that I descended from. It gets the imagination going. I mean really going until it gets hilarious. My husband is so tired of me talking about “I’m kin to that person.” Then I show him how and his eyes glaze over. Well, you know it’s just jealousy lol

I mean this is more interesting than any stupid Lifetime movie. If they made a movie of our heritage....it would be a blockbuster for sure. All the different people with names like the “Blue Knight of Gwent” or a woman named “Dangerouse” she has to have been dangerous with that name, Rollo who was too big to ride a horse. The stories we could write.

We have so many ancestors on Wikipedia that with every profile, we should print out the Wikipedia information on the person. Then make a series about people like Rurik, Yasolav the Wise, Anna of Kiev, the emperors of Constantinople and so on. At this point I feel that I’m a walking encyclopedia of the history of the nobility.

You can write me at chanteuse617@icloud.com

After hearing all the bloodlines you have, I am certain that we are cousins through who knows how many lines.

I want my crown! I guess I will have to wait for my Heavenly one, as it doesn’t look like a sure thing here.

Maybe it is true if we all got together, they might do something and give us our due lol

commented Jun 25, 2021 by Misty Wright G2G Rookie (100 points)

Flag me for speaking too much for tonight. heh, THIS IS WELSH HISTORY!!! I wasn't raised by my father. My dad's niece passed away (my cousin) just a few years ago. I had not known my dad's side of history. My grandmother was Charlotta Mangus. She is like the KEY to that Magical Door to Disneyland. It opens up to secret enchantment Rides. She is the key to all my Kings and Queens connection. It is true my mother's side has them too but, her lineage is in a different direction. Both of Whales, I mean Welshies. From many centuries ago. Grandma's lineage is the connection to Charlemagne, Alias MAGNUS, meaning Great in Latin. If she only lived to know what Royality she was, and to me, for i had not known her. She told my dad to get me and bring me to his state of Washington. My mother was from SD, Ca. Two different people, from two different locations and states. Dad from the country, Mom from one of the largest cities. They couldn't stand each other. HEH. DONNY AND MARIE, old song about was it Rock n Roll and Country? Or City and Country, it has been so long ago now. hehe, Grandmother would have been proud of what I found for her. One day, both of my Grandmothers I will tell them all about the proud lineage they left for me. Oh, Wait, If I get up there. I donated 33 gallons of rare blood so I can bride St. Peter. HE BETTER LET ME IN. heh. IF NOT, I want my BLOOD BACK!!! I hearing that my special blood goes over 5,000 dollars. WAIT, I want part of that sales. hehe, I do not!!

commented Jun 25, 2021 by Alvin Meredith-Premus G2G Rookie (110 points)

Hello Cousin A.J., So that's what it is - a royal Scepter. I was wondering what that was. Thought it was a magic wand. Living on the ocean, my audience consists mainly of octupuses and mermaids but when I waved my wand/scepter, they all slithered away. They probably thought it was a fishing pole. haha

I agree with you. I would caution our Welsh, Scottish and English cousins alike against wars between Clans and Castles. Think of the paperwork.

We probably do not need to go back as far as our ancestor, King Amalach, to find a common ancestor. Most likely we have much more recent common ancestors. Although Wales looms large in our hearts, it has had a relatively small population historically. Not everyone who ever lived in Wales had descendants, so living descendants, which restricts the pool of possible ancestors. Probably we can find at least one recent connection.

Most of my family tree is on WikiTree. I'm not sure what may be on Geni. What data do you need to check it out?

commented Jun 25, 2021 by Marion Ceruti G2G6 Pilot (359k points)

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Answer 1 · 2021-06-21T14:40:29+0000

I have a book titled "Genealogy of the Williams Family, Descendants of John Williams of Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales." The book was published in Chicago in 1897.

John Williams was a farmer and hatter in Wales. He is said to have advanced funds to aid Oliver Cromwell in the conquest of Ireland and is thought to have served in the military under Cromwell. John Williams was awarded land in Northern Ireland. The next three generations included three descendants named John Williams.

Ann Williams, he daughter of the 4th John Williams was born in 1747 and she married William Bell also born in 1747. The couple left Ireland with their children and came to Western Pennsylvania in 1792.

Ann Williams is my 4th great grandmother.

Answer 2 · 2021-06-21T15:00:21+0000

I have Welsh Quaker ancestors who emigrated to Pennsylvania in the 1600’s and 2nd great-grandparents who came to America in 1847 and settled in a Welsh community near Rome, New York. I have their Bible in Welsh and my mother went to the local Welsh Congregational church with her grandparents as a small child. They still sang some hymns in Welsh. I have also been to the church in Tal-y-llyn where my ancestors were married and the farm where she worked as a maid and he as a farm-hand.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jones-33722

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Evans-11388

Answer 3 · 2021-06-21T16:55:14+0000

Well most of my ancestors were german, french, english, scottish, netherlands, Irish, but my 9th great grandfather, Thomas Pitman is which is thru my mother's Denton side , my 5th great grandmother , Mouring Hogg her mother was Judith Pittman , so Thomas was Welsh from what I could tell that is the only ancestor i could find

Answer 4 · 2021-06-22T16:07:13+0000

Yes, my husband's gg-? grandfather was born in Breconshire, Wales. His name was Edward Edwards and was born in 1827. According to an 1841 England, Wales & Scotland census. Family members were Walter b-1791, Blanch b-1818, Edward b-1827 and Walter b-1831 all born in Wan Vach, Llanbeder, Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales. I only have info on the Edward born in 1827. Through the generations, none of the first names have changed which makes me crazy.

Answer 5 · 2021-06-22T22:13:50+0000

My grandmother was born in tenby pembrokeshire. Her aunt was hannah parry nee Jones, daughter in law of the famous welsh composer Joseph parry. My grt grandfather william williams was a professor of music and added the middle name cecil to his name. There is also a plaque in his honour on wall of st marys tenby where he was church organist for many years. His 2 sons sang at the coronation of king george V in 1910.

Answer 6 · 2021-06-22T22:40:11+0000

Yes. 1) My maternal great-grandfather John D. Evans born 11 Nov 1821 in Conwil-Elvet, son of David & Elizabeth Hughes Evans. 2) My maternal great-grandmother Anna Williams Evans born15 Apr 1822, daughter of Edward & Elizabeth Rogers Williams. 3) My maternal great-grandfather William Griffith Edwards born 15 Feb 1828 in Pendare, son of Griffith Edwards who died in Wales in 1864. 4) My maternal great-grandmother Mary Williams Edwards born 1828 in Dowlais, Glamorgan, daughter of Edward & Elizabeth Rogers Williams. The men came to America to work in the coal mines in Trumbull County, Ohio.

Answer 7 · 2021-06-23T04:18:23+0000

According to WikiTree, my family has very deep Welsh roots. In fact, the roots are so deep as to make me wonder, but I don't have the ability to research that far back yet (and often there is a language barrier, as well). It is interesting to see, however. Example: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wledig-4

There are also more recent, less questionable Welsh roots in my part of the tree.

Answer 8 · 2021-06-23T08:17:50+0000

Very extensive Welsh roots in Cardiganshire,Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire initially centred around Newcastle Emlyn from the 1850s and earlier.

Answer 9 · 2021-06-23T08:34:43+0000

My direct paternal line does in fact branch off into Wales distantly, and maybe that accounts for some of the 2% Welsh now detected in my DNA. Probably there are other connections I'm not aware of yet.

Answer 10 · 2021-06-23T14:26:21+0000

My paternal grandmother Sarah Ann Francis was born in Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan in Wales in 1881. I think that is spelled right.

Answer 11 · 2021-06-23T14:45:00+0000

Yes! My mother is a Ragland. I've had a hard time tracing the family because they left Wales, I believe, before United States Independence. I wish I had more free time to devote to it, but who doesn't wish for that?

Answer 12 · 2021-06-23T15:20:58+0000

My 4xGt Grandmother Elizabeth Rouse

Born1791 Glamorgan, Wales

Died 1872 Mynyddystwyyn, Monmouthshire, Wales

Her spouse was William Smith I believe. Elizabeth and William had a son Edward John Smith 1814-1877 married Sarah Ann Garland

Answer 13 · 2021-06-23T16:54:58+0000

Yes, I am the Third Great Grandson of Elizabeth Terrick, born in Wales about 1775. (See Terrick-10) . She was the wife of Louis Movelle and resided on Merasheen Island, Placentia Bay, Newfoundland and Labrador. I have no further details on her Welch origins and would really like more info if anyone can help. Thanks.

Answer 14 · 2021-06-23T17:02:05+0000

Yes. My grandfather, Thomas Clinton Harper, was born 08 May 1871, at Mill Farm, Kemys Inferior, Monmouthshire, Wales. He was one of 19 children born to Thomas and Elizabeth (Morgan) Harper. Not all lived to adulthood and there was one set of twins that died shortly after birth, having been baptized at home immediately after birth. My grandfather left Wales after a row with his father, apparently still talked about in the area, and left for America where his aunt and uncle lived.

Answer 15 · 2021-06-23T17:35:57+0000

My mother’s family are Bevans from Wales, although they were living in England when my great-grandfather came to the U S.

Answer 16 · 2021-06-23T18:06:05+0000

Yes, on my mother's side. On my maternal grandfather's side, Edwin Dawson, my 3x great grandfather was born in Wales in 1805.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dawson-7523

On my maternal grandmother's side, we have to go back a little farther than that to the year 90 CE when Wales had kings. I am descended from Amalach ap Beli, King of Wales.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Beli-1

Answer 17 · 2021-06-23T18:19:56+0000

I have traced my paternal side back to John Lodge born 1739 in Upton Bishop, Herefordshire. He married Hester (aka Esther) Pope. he died in Lea, Herefordshire in 1829. I descend from his son John born in 1765.

Answer 18 · 2021-06-23T18:22:28+0000

My fathers family are from Wales those that are left live in Ferndale Glammorgan. His mother was born in Blaina Monmouthshire one of her sisters Alice Evans amigrated to America and later married her step brother Charles Ashley. They lived in Youngstown Ohio. There are relations there but I have been unable to contact them.

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