image page photo link removed

Question

Why has there been a change to the image details page?,with out the link that used to be so helpful, it makes it a little difficult to add photos to the biogragphy!!!

has there been a improvements that I am unaware of?, have not been following the thread about the change?, or has it moved elswhere?

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THANK YOU!!!
I assume you are referring to the section that gave code suggestions like :
<-div style="margin: auto;">[[Image:XXXX-123.jpg|400px]]<-/div>
I noticed it was gone and had to go searching for another profile I had used a photo on, in order to cut n paste!
But I have to admit, part of me wondered if I had just lost my mind and couldn't find it in what was once so obvious a place...
I suspect it got washed away in the addition of the new TNT page...
-P Rich

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I think it may be a response to these

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/HTML_and_Inline_CSS

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Recommended_Tags

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That's great, and I commend Rob for creating such a resource page...BUT

When I look at that page it just makes my head hurt and I retain NOTHING useful from it... I don't, nor do I want to, speak in WikiCode. It's just REALLY handy to have cut'n-paste examples of things I can do in the Bio box right there available for me just when I need it... Sometimes I fear change...ya know?
-P Rich

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OK let me digest it then. The <div style="margin: auto;">[[Image:XXXX-123.jpg|400px]]<-/div> thingy's (tags) are HTML, which is no longer reccomended for use in biographies. Since that specific reference has been removed, then it for the moment is no longer reccommended for use in adding photos into a bio, although it's ok to add them to the profile.

We can only hope that the powers that be have something else up their sleeves.

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Speaking of change, didn't there used to be a button to push in the G2G edit window to "change a comment to an answer"? Or am I just going crazy again?
-P Rich

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You can change an answer to a comment (there's a checkbox), but you can't change a comment to an answer.

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But... But... But...
I Liked using source images in the sources section of the Bio... So that means it's against the rules now? (excuse me "not recommended")
Does that mean I should go through and remove that from my exsisting bios?
-P Rich

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Thank you A.B.! Found it! -P Rich

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O.K. so what is the recomended code for adding images to a Biography since

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/HTML_and_Inline_CSS

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Recommended_Tags

does not say anything about Images and does that mean we are now have to delete all images, as without a code to add them to a bio they are virtually useless, I sincerely hope not, as they give a Profile some creativity and charecter and a Source some integrity

Please tell me there is a way to add photos to Bio's using our version of wiki mark up

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Watching this as I add my images to a freespace in order to add them to a bio. I always thought beings that code was on the right that it was allowable.

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Yes Jackie, because it was there, it made it alright and allowable, but it's not there now.

Paul, I don't know how we're supposed to add photos in the "reccomended way"

All I know is that the direction on the Image page that gave us specifics on how to do it is now gone, and that the line in the reccomended tags (the one saying it was going to change) is gone also. This indicates to me that at the moment there is no recommended way.

Would I remove all my photos from bios? No Way, not until I know there will be a replacement.

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Hi All,

The decision was made to remove the code samples because there hasn't been a thorough discussion in the community and a decision made as to whether inline images should or should not be recommended, and if so, how.

There is probably little danger that if you use inline images they will later be removed by others. I expect there's a good chance that they'll become official style. We will probably come up with a uniform set of recommendations for them. But we don't have these recommendations yet.

If you want to stick to what's safe, go with plain text and focus on content instead of design. This is really what we've gotten away from in some cases, and I think it has led to trouble. The focus of WikiTree collaboration should be content, not creative design.

Chris

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Thank you Chris for enlightening us.

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Why would you remove something before the decision of official style is made? A picture is worth a thousand words.

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Bob, there were some members who got really upset (understandably) when we seemed to be recommending something that later had to be changed. I'm posting a G2G thread to start the style rule discussion now.

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Here's a new thread for discussing it: "Should inline images be recommended?"

Answer 1

I've always thought the source images looked REALLY bad just floating off to the right there...unorganized and kinda cluttered.
So I have been uploading them, attaching them to the bio with the recommended code, and then detaching them from the profile to eliminate the duplication. End result looks nice and adds A LOT to the source section of the bio. Am I doing something wrong that I now need to go fix??? Can somebody add more tags to this thread or maybe attach it to Rob or Chris's names to get some attention... I'm kinda stressing over this...???
-P Rich

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Remember to leave the images "attached" to at least one profile.  Images that are not attached to a profile are deleted in time.

Photo FAQ

How do you remove or delete a photo?

 ... This disconnects the image from any profile, but it will still exist in the database for a short period of time so that it can be recovered. This way photos can't be maliciously or mistakenly deleted.

Answer 2

Temporary fix

[[Image:xxxx-451.jpg|200px|center|Caption]]

from a Wiki Markup page, dont know if it is recomended or can be recomended but no div or span to worry about, only Chris can tell us, can someone pass it on to him please.

Answer 3

Chris would of posted in the G2G if there was going to be a big change such as stopping photos in the bio with every other style rule change there has been a big discussion in the G2G with members first .

This would be a huge change if no photos were allowed in the bio so you would think this is no different to the other style changes where the members have a input as it would  have a big effect on us all

Answer 4

So if we continue adding/ using the images are we wrong?  If we have all the images just on the right side it clutters it up and not everyone can enter in the order necessary which would involve uploading and un-attaching if  not right order and then re-uploading if you want it to make any sense (wouldn't this clutter the system up?)

I cannot write the narratives like the others can.  Small snippets here and there as most my ancestors were just ordinary folks.

 

I kinda like when it a mix;  narrative at top pertinent images, if you have them where applicable and the vitals  and sources below. 

 

In that way everyone can find the information they seek. 

 

There are people with various degrees of how they research genealogy.  

 

In fact I really don't like when the bio is all narrative and on some you can spend a lot of time reading to find out  that it does not apply to who you are looking for and you have to check the source and  in most cases all it says is what the source is and not any particulars. (example: 1880 census with no hints to where to find the census)

 

A lot are very interesting reads, but for the case of just researching by genealogist of various levels, it can be frustrating.  I bookmark those I want to read later.