G2G: William Randolph - Gateway Ancestor to Henry Bohun?

Question

William Randolph (Randolph-94) is not list listed as a Gateway Ancestor to Henry Bohun (Bohun-7).

According to the relationship Finder shown below he is directly related. Wondering why he is not listed as a Gateway?

15th great grandson

1. William is the son of Richard Randolph (bef.1622-abt.1678) [confident]
2. Richard is the son of Dorothy (Lane) Randolph (bef.1589-abt.1656) [confident]
3. Dorothy is the daughter of Richard Lane (abt.1565-abt.1632) [confident]
4. Richard is the son of Catherine (Trentham) Lane (abt.1540-aft.1575) [unknown confidence]
5. Catherine is the daughter of Richard Trentham (abt.1500-1547) [confident]
6. Richard is the son of Elizabeth (Corbet) Trentham (abt.1472-) [confident]
7. Elizabeth is the daughter of Elizabeth (Devereux) Leighton (1452-1516) [confident]
8. Elizabeth is the daughter of Anne (Ferrers) Devereux (1438-abt.1469) [unknown confidence]
9. Anne is the daughter of Elizabeth (Belknap) Ferrers (abt.1416-1471) [unknown confidence]
10. Elizabeth is the daughter of Joan (Botiler) Belknap (abt.1395-bef.1473) [unknown confidence]
11. Joan is the daughter of Alice (Beauchamp) Boteler (1366-1443) [confident]
12. Alice is the daughter of John (Beauchamp) de Beauchamp (abt.1330-bef.1389) [unknown confidence]
13. John is the son of Giles (Beauchamp) de Beauchamp (abt.1283-1361) [confident]
14. Giles is the son of Alice (Toeni) Beauchamp (bef.1265-aft.1347) [confident]
15. Alice is the daughter of Alice (Bohun) de Tony (abt.1238-aft.1270) [confident]
16. Alice is the daughter of Humphrey (Bohun) de Bohun (abt.1200-1275) [confident]
17. Humphrey is the son of Henry (Bohun) de Bohun (abt.1175-1220) [confident]
This makes Henry the 15th great grandfather of William.

Answer 1

He is. See: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Randolph-94#Magna_Carta_Trails

Comments

Thank you Traci.

I was also wondering about Henry Filmer (Filmer-6).

The only trail it shows on The Magna Carta trail is to William Huntingfield.

The Ancestor Explorer shows this:

Filmer-6 (Henry Filmer) has 8 unique ancestors and 3 duplicate ancestors (additional lines of descent from a unique ancestor) within 20 generations who meet the Magna Carta Surety Barons list criteria

Name	Birth Date	Birth Location	Death Date	Death Location
Hugh Bigod (2)	1185-00-00	Suffolk, England	1225-02-18	Thetford, Norfolk, England
Roger Bigod (2)	1144-00-00	Suffolk, England	1221-08-02	Thetford, Norfolk, England
Gilbert Clare	1180-00-00	Hertfordshire, England	1230-10-25	Penros, Bretagne, France
Richard Clare	1153-00-00	Tonbridge Castle, Kent, England	1217-11-28	Tonbridge Castle, Kent, England
Robert de Vere	1164-00-00	Essex, England	1221-10-25	England
William Huntingfield	1160-00-00	England	1221-01-25	Holy Land
John Lacy	1192-00-00	England	1240-07-22	England
Saier Quincy (2)	1165-00-00		1219-11-03	Damietta, Egypt

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The trail from Henry Filmer to Huntingfield is the only one for Filmer so far badged by the Magna Carta Project. The aim of the Project, at this stage, is to investigate, write up and badge at least ONE trail from ONE Surety Baron to each Gateway Ancestor. Lots of Gateway Ancestors have more than one Surety Baron ancestor, but many of the possible trails have not yet been looked at by the Project.

Be aware that the information on relationships and lines of ancestry/descent on WikiTree is not always accurate - it is only as accurate as the information on WikiTree, and that is not always well-sourced.

A professional genealogist called Douglas Richardson, whose books "Magna Carta Ancestry" are the Project's starting point, lists only the descent of Henry Filmer from Huntingfield. Filmer may still be descended from other Surety Barons as well, and possibly this might even emerge if one put together entries in different sections of Richardson's books: but it would take research and investigation to demonstrate this.

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How can one participate in one of the badging / research projects?

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Please see this post in G2G: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1282391/challenge-interested-magna-ancestry-consider-joining-project?show=1282391#q1282391. It summarises the expectations we have when considering requests to join the Project and gives a link to a page with more information. If you would like to join, please read all this carefully. Thanks!

Anyone can of course post comments on profiles if they have information to contribute.

As I indicated in my previous reply, the Project is not at this stage aiming to work on every line of descent of Gateway Ancestors from Surety Barons. We have more than enough to do working towards establishing one confirmed line of descent from one Baron for each Gateway Ancestor, and making sure that profiles in the line of descent meet the high Project standards.