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Who are the correct parents of Elizabeth Van Sandt who married Peter Cole?
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Hello Researchers,
On Family Search it looks like they have this same Elizabeth Van Sandt (1707-1763) as being married to a Peter Cole in 1722 Bucks, Pennsylvania. There are nine Cole children listed on Family Search.
They have a Baptism record from 1710 that lists her parents as Jacobus Van Sandt and Rebecka Van Der Grift. Though it seems that does not match what is listed on WikiTree. They also have a 1717 baptism record for Elizabeth with listed father of Garret Van-Sandt. That name seems very similar to the one listed here on WikiTree of Joris Gerretse van Sandt.
Okay, I see there is another profile in WikiTree for Elizabeth (VanSandt) Cole (1707 - abt. 1784):
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/VanSandt-36
who is married to Peter Cole.
So the question is are Elizabeth (Vansant) Vandegrift (1707 - 1763) and Elizabeth (VanSandt) Cole (1707 - abt. 1784) two separate people? It seems like they are just based on the different death years and that there were two Elizabeth's who were married and had families about the same time period. It does not seem off hand like there was one Elizabeth who married twice.
Here is the link to the Family Search page,
Elizabeth Van Sandt (1707–1763)
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LR9R-MKB
I found Volkert Vandegrift as well,
Volkert Vandegrift (1695 - 1775)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vandegrift-27
Folkart Vandegrift
https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LZ6F-QMP/folkart-vandegrift-1695-1775
Okay, so Family Search has the parents of Elisabeth VanSandt (1701-1742) who married Folkart Vandegrift on 6 May 1719 as Harmen Gerretsz Van Sandy and Lysbeth Willems Brouwer.
On Volkert's WikiTree profile he has two profiles for his wife Elizabeth listed. One of them is Elisabeth Van Sandt (abt. 1701)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Sandt-8
who is connected to parents Herman (Gerritze) Vansandt and Lijsbeth Brouwers.
Here is the profile on Geni for Fulkert:
https://www.geni.com/people/Fulkert-Vandegrift/6000000142053983899
And for wife Elizabeth:
https://www.geni.com/people/Elizabeth-Vandegrift/6000000142054422821
It does not list any parents for her.
More research needed to determine who the correct parents are.
So far we have two Elizabeths and two sets of parents, but there records have been mixed up in Family Search I think.
We have:
Elizabeth (Vansant) Vandegrift (1707 - 1763)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vansant-8
Daughter of Joris Gerretse van Sandt and Maike van Degrist
Listed as wife of Wife of Volkert Vandegrift.
Elisabeth Van Sandt (abt. 1701)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Sandt-8
Daughter of Herman (Gerritze) Vansandt and Lijsbeth Brouwers
Listed as Wife of Volkert Vandegrift
There is also the profile of
Elizabeth Van Sandt (1706 - abt. 1800)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Sandt-92
Daughter of Joris Gerretse van Sandt and Maike van Degrist
No husband listed.
Then on Family Search
Elizabeth Van Sandt
14 January 1707 – 3 October 1763
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LR9R-MKB
Listed as husband of Peter Cole
Parents listed as George Joris Gerretse Vansant and Maike Micah Vandergrift
Elizabeth VanSandt 1701–1742
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LRKH-G3J
Listed as husband of Folkart Vandegrift
Parents listed as Harmen Gerretsz Van Sandt and Lysbeth Willems Brouwer
Harmen Gerretsz Van Sandt
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L716-SSJ
and George Joris Gerretse Vansant
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LH5N-9NJ
It looks like are brothers. So we are dealing with two cousins named Elizabeth Van Sandt who got their records confused.
It would be nice to find some other sources to confirm what the correct relationships are.
WikiTree profile:
Elizabeth Cole
vansandt
cole
dutch_roots
van_sandt
new_netherland
vansant
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Erik Granstrom
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Here we have a source:
III. Harman VAN SANDT, son of Garrett and Lysbeth GERRITZ
his daugher,
3. Elizabeth, who married May 6, 1719 Volkert VANDEGRIFT, and had nine children, and died before her father. See VANDEGRIFT Family.
VIII. George VAN SANDT, son of Garret
From the will of George VANSANT proven March 22, 1755, we learn that his children were Nicholas, Cornelius, George, Benjamin, Ephraim, John; Elizabeth, wife of Peter COLE;
* "History of Bucks County, Pa Volume 3 by William H. Davis." Accessed Sept. 5th, 2021.
http://pagenweb.org/~bucks/BIOS_DAVIS/vansantfamily.html
.
So I think we need to disconnect
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vansant-8
from her husband of Volkert.
And then Vansant-8 can merge with
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/VanSandt-36
and both Elizabeths should have the correct parents in WikiTree.
I think that would mean that the Family Search tree was already correct to begin with.
Then there is still the extra
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Sandt-92
profile, unless the parents had two children named Elizabeth I think that Van_Sandt-92 should be merged into Vansant-8
Though once again, the question on which last name is most correct. If we are going with Van_Sandt then the merges would go:
Disconnect Vandegrift-27 as husband for Van_Sandt-8
Merge Vansant-8 into VanSandt-36
Then she will have correct parents listed.
Then Merge Vansant-8 into Van_Sandt-92, both sets of parents will be matching already.
Then there is Alice Else (Vandergrift) La Rue (1731 - 1801) if she is the daughter of Volkert then she should have her mother changed from
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vansant-8
to
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Sandt-92
And I think then everything should match up.
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