I am looking for information on Daniel Hagan born in County Louth Ireland in 1828

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Do you have a profile you might post with this that gives a bit more information?  More about his birth, parents names perhaps off a marriage certificate, where he lived and died, his children's names, occupation, etc?  When he left there? Thank you.

It would just make it a bit easier as there have been millions of people in County Louth and many with the same names.

Perhaps you have already started looking here?

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.anyDate.from=1828&q.anyPlace=county%20louth%2C%20irweland&q.givenName=daniel&q.surname=hagen
by Lynn L G2G6 Mach 7 (79.7k points)
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The only information I have on Daniel Hagan is that he was born in County Louth, Ireland in 1848. He and his wife Rose, immigrated to America. Rose was a nurse and Daniel was a professional wrestler in Ireland. I do not know his middle name or where they were married..

 Rose’s dad was Alexander William Hugh Miller and was born in Northern Ireland in 1800. Rose’s mother was Jennie Jane O’Neill born in Ireland in 1810.  Rose H Miller was the 3rd child of 9 children and was born in 1830 .

Daniel and Rose’s first child was born in 1868, so they were both older when they started their family in Iowa.

I do not know when they came to America.

I wonder if they both had a previous history while living in Ireland before they married.

Do you have the name of their children?  There is an Irish naming pattern which is sometimes  correct 1st son is named after paternal grandfather, 1st daughter named after maternal grandmother, 2nd son named after maternal grandfather and 2nd daughter named after paternal grandmother.  

In the meantime, Griffiths valuation done in 1843 might give you his father's first name location somewhere.  And perhaps this website might prove helpful??

https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=hagan

If you know what religion they are it can help narrow down the parish.
Daniel Hagan was Catholic.. His children's names were Lawrence Winford Hagan, Henry Alexander Hagan, Thomas Conrad Hagan..

Some of his grandchildren's names were Daniel John, Robert Truman, Jean Hagan, Danial Vern Hagan, Leroy A Hagan, James Hagan. Henry Richard Hagan.

Daniel Hagan,1828-1943, was buried in the Old Catholic Cemetery in Dennison, Iowa.  I am looking for records of his Dad and Mom and Grandparents born in Ireland.
Well these are the Hagan's farming in country Louth for the tithe applotment records in County Louth, if you find Lawrence or something that looks familiar it will be good to narrow down the area they are from. http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=hagan+&firstname=&county=Louth&parish=&townland=&search=Search
And these are all the catholic parish records for County Louth.  They are not searchable you have to go through each one that may apply and see if you can find your ancestor listed    

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=louth+
Since 1st names often run in families, I searched the census, not all areas have census for certain time periods.  But in the 1901 Census there is a Lawrence Hagan in Louth, roman catholic, 15 years old however the name was probably passed down through the family, located in Drummullagh, Louth.  When looking through the parish records, I would start in this parish area to look for your family..  http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Drummullagh/Ballinteskin/1557751/

Also this Hagan in Drummullagh, Carlingford, Louth was also held by Bridget Hagan in the Griffiths Valuation in the 1845-50's  

https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/louth/carlingford.htm
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My own Irish brick wall doesn't even have a county.  [[Douglas-10589|Hector Douglas (1803-abt.1870)]] is simply born in Ireland.  No search has returned a result.
by Mark Weinheimer G2G6 Pilot (452k points)
It is difficult because births, marriages, deaths were not required to be registered until the mid 1840's, the earliest census (1821 - 1831) were almost all destroyed in the fire of 1922 in Dublin.  Sometimes if one can read up on their ancestor where they immigrated too and find out where exactly they came from, the parish in that area or history in that area may have something?  There are/were millions and millions of people.  One can also search the shipping records in north america for anything about where they sailed from to try and get a sense of the area.  Alot of research has to be done where they immigrated too before one can jump to Ireland.  Good luck.
I have no idea where he or his wife came from, other than his census record, which simply states he was born in Ireland.  His 4 children are listed as born in Upper Canada, so he was in Canada by 1835.  I haven't been able to find any more enlightening records, despite an unusual first name.
That alone is a start to know that they shipped into Canada, where did they settle in Canada or stay and for how long? Perhaps you have see this http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/Biogs/biographies_military.htm#.YXMk247Yrrc

Unusual sometimes makes things a little easier as names are often carried on from generation to generation in fact if you just do a general search of 1803 Hector Douglas you may find some interesting information about ancestors or connections to the family.

Sorry you do know that the Douglas family is Scot right?  Look up Hector Douglas, Mulderg, Scotland.  Hector in Ireland was probably a planter and perhaps even owned property during the confiscations.

In the meantime, Thomas Douglas, Lord of Selkirk was populating PEI, Upper Canada and eventually the Red River Colony in Manitoba starting in about 1803, perhaps your family was one of his settlers or connected?
Ontario genealogy has a list of him marrying in 1834, perhaps if you can find the record of marriage it might give at least his parent's last names.  

https://www.ontariogenealogy.com/uppercanadamarriages.html
Thank you, Lyn, for your responses.  He was a resident of Scarboro now Toronto, Ontario.  His daughters show that as their birthplace on wedding records.  So he was in that area by 1835.  He was a weaver.  His profile is here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Douglas-10589 My family always thought of him as a Scot, It was a shock to find the records of him and his wife, born in Ireland.
Scarborough is 30 minutes north of Toronto.  

The distance between Scotland and Ireland is about 20 km at Mull o Kintyre, people use to go to Scotland to help with harvest after things were done up in Ireland.  Scotland and Ireland have been sending people back and forth since people 1st appeared there.  When Cromwell invaded Ireland in 1640 or thereabouts, they took the land from the English and brought in the Scots to protestantize Ireland as it was all native Catholics.  At that time and since that time records have been hidden, destroyed and misplaced until the mid 1840's.

If you can find his father's name - according celtic naming patterns it may be his eldest son's name, you might sound records in Scotland, which appear to have better records then Ireland??  

Thanks for sharing, so interesting.
The only son I have found for him is Francis.  He is here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Douglas-11527.  I've begun saving all of the 18th and 19th century Irish Douglas profiles that appear in my feed, so I can begin to understand Irish Douglas genealogy, and begin to identify particular areas where where Irish Douglas come from.
I, too found this record, but it disagrees with his children's marriage records, which show Sarah Hamilton as his wife.

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