Martin, Marten, or Martyn from Calstock, Cornwall

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My 2nd Great Grandfather Luke Lukes married Alice Martin (or Martyn or Marten) in Calstock, Cornwall.   I've found some references, but Lukes and Martin seem pretty common, and I want to make sure I have the right Luke Lukes and the right Alice Martin.

The thing I know for sure is that Alice Lukes (Martin) died in Oskaloosa, Iowa in 18 Dec 1901. Her birthdate on her grave is listed as 25 Nov 1843 (but that could be a year off).  Here is her FindAgrave, with all my notes:  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=16536601

Any help or ideas on getting "sure" information, rather than my speculation. I do not have any family history passed down other than "Luke Lukes" is her husband.

I found two marriage records, which confuses me:

MARRIAGE - 5 Nov 1861
* LUKAS, Luke     MARTIN, Alice   banns
* Luke (21) bachelor & police officer, Alice (18) spinster
* Luke of Gunnislake, Alice of Latchley
* son of Robert?, woodman, daur of John, farmer
* witnesses: Joseph ??, John Baker
 
MARRIAGE - 27 Oct 1861
* LUKES, Luke / MARTYN, Alice / bachelor otp / spinster otp / 13, 20, 27 Oct 1861 / 
 
 
UPDATE (Her Parents):
Based on the answers so far, her parents could be Robert and Nora of Calstock. I found this: 

 

WikiTree profile: Alice Lukes
in Genealogy Help by D. Bodenheimer G2G Crew (680 points)
edited by D. Bodenheimer

3 Answers

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It is not always easy to tell. You need to pay close attention to details,especially things like Calstock (or nearby) in Cornwall & not just Cornwall, etc.

This looks like their marriage record:

Name: Luke Lukes
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1840
Marriage Date: 5 Nov 1861
Marriage Place: Calstock, Cornwall, England
Father: Robert Lukes
Spouse: Alice Martin
FHL Film Number: 1545380
Reference ID: p 58

England, Marriages, 1538–1973. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.

A baptism record:

Name: Alice Martin
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 27 Nov 1842
Baptism Place: Calstock, Cornwall, England
Father: John Martin
Mother: Norah
FHL Film Number: 1545380
Reference ID: p 114

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.

by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)
edited by Doug Lockwood
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Immigration Record:

Name: Alice Lukes
Arrival Date: 1 May 1885
Birth Date: abt 1843
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Place of Origin: Liverpool,England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of Rome
Search Ship Database: Search for the City of Rome in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Year: 1885; Arrival: New York, New York; Microfilm Serial: M237, 1820-1897; Microfilm Roll: Roll 485; Line: 8; List Number: 490

Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Microfilm Publication M237, 675 rolls. Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36. National Archives at Washington, D.C.

 

city of Rome

 

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by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)
edited by Doug Lockwood
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This is from the 1851 census:

Name: Robert Lukes
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Amelia Lukes
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanlivery, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Luxulion
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:
image
Registration district: Bodmin
Sub-registration district: Lanlivery
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Piece: 1904
Folio: 153
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Lukes 53
Amelia Lukes 46
Rachel Lukes 17
Robert Lukes 14
Ann Lukes 13
Luke Lukes 10
Thomas Lukes 4

Source Citation

Class: HO107; Piece: 1904; Folio: 153; Page: 14; GSU roll: 221055-221056

Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1851.

by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)

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