Lottie Pearl (Green) Gibbs (1895 - 1954) Adoption date and Record

Question

My great grandmother Lottie was adopted by her mother’s parents when she was young as her mother passed away and the father apparently wasn’t involved with her childhood or life.

What I need collaboration with is the adoption record source (New York, Census of Inmates in Almshouses and Poorhouses, 1830-1920) that is showing a date in the record of September 10, 1897 for her listed as Lattre P Green (name has a typo) in the poor house listing her grandparents as adopting her. Is this a correct date of adoption? The part of the record shows county of Franklin, New York. What town? The record is difficult for me to read at my experience level.

Is there other sources for her in adoption records? I’d like to keep the adoption template as accurate as possible  

Thank you

Note: I would like to find her in the 1925 New York census if possible; however she most likely is in the Canadian Census in 1925

Comments

I had a look at the Almshouse document. The September 10, 1897 date is clearly marked on the right hand side of the document as an admission date. No discharge date is indicated below it. So it is not clear from this document what the actual adoption date was. I suppose it could have been the same day as admission but perhaps the paperwork to discharge someone would take longer than that?

As for finding Lottie in a Canadian Census, the last Federal census made publicly available is 1921.  There is a 1926 Census of the prairie provinces, Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. So unless, after crossing into Quebec in 1925, she headed for a prairie province??,  we wont be able to locate her by Census.

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One more observation, The document gives Lotties birthplace as Franklin, Franklin County, New York. Its marked in the information near the top of the document beside "Town or City". Here is a link to some historical information about the Franklin County Almshouse in New York

http://franklin.nygenweb.net/misc/poorhouse.html

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Family story says she didn’t stay very long and that her grandparents got her out of there immediately and adopted her but that’s from what has been handed down verbally. This helps in her genealogy and is appreciated. 

Edit: I think a big factor is she is the only surviving child of their daughter Eva who died too young. 

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I think I would be looking for the official authority for adoptions at the time. The Almshouse or poorhouse was a respite, but adoptions if there was a process was perhaps something the local government would have overseen or regulated. Paperwork may be lost, but it could also be archived somewhere. The document from the Almshouse looks like an admission registration that someone made a note on regarding the fact she was adopted to complete their record. I don't think it is an official adoption form.

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There is a few records showing John and Lottie travelled to Iroquois, Ontario, Canada arriving there December 27, 1924 and Prescott, Ontario, Canada ; Also On May 29, 1925 the family has border crossed into Quebec Canada arriving at the port of Huntingdon, Quebec, Canada as is seen on husband John’s profile records. Probably the census of this time frame 1924-1925 won’t be available?

Edit: I’d like the snapshot of their lives on a census in this short time frame

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No I agree not an official adoption form it will be challenging g to find such a record. I don’t even see the Almshouse record on familysearch yet?

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No, not in Canada. The last census released to the public was the Federal 1921 Census. And the 1931 Census release date is not until 2023.

The Census is done every 10 years so nothing would have been taken in 1925. I had a quick look for an indication that Quebec may have independently done an enumeration but nothing came up.

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Adoption records are highly confidential, often sealed forever paperwork back then, held by the government. It was not until much later that a change (in Canada at least) was made to the length of the seal.... to 75 years.  It is possible to access the record but you need an order from the Court or Adoption Board. You are lucky to have the original birth record as nowadays Vital Stats changes that information so that you see the adoptive parents as biological and  the "adopted " name of the child.

I think if I was looking for an adoption record I would be going to the government of the state where the adoption occurred. Find out how the paperwork was handled back then, where it might be archived and (if the record survived) what the access would be. Doubt very much that Adoption records would be accessible online.

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Thank you this helps with furthering her genealogy research