Alice Elizabeth Eddy s/b 2 people: Alice Eddy & Elizabeth Eddy, no?

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Eddy-11 and Eddy-18 match in the following:

Both are named Alice Elizabeth Eddy. Both married Benjamin Hatch in 1682 and Jonathan Lambert in 1683. My own work shows two sisters, Alice & Elizabeth, married to Hatch & Lambert respectively. There are 13 Hatch children; I don't know how many Lambert children. I'm not descended from that line (I'm descended from Alice's son Eddy Hatch) and never looked at it closely.

The Eddy-11 and Eddy-18 profiles have a mix of Hatch & Lambert children, with overlapping birthdates. It's pretty obvious to me that two sisters got conflated. Since there's two profiles, it makes the most sense to me to edit one to be Alice, the other her younger sister Elizabeth, and assign husbands and children as appropriate, merging where needed. But it seems a radical step to be taking without consultation.

I guess this belongs to the colonial Martha's Vineyard group? Or something.

Perfect example of pre-1700 problem which doesn't belong to PGM or Mayflower or another group, to my knowledge.
WikiTree profile: Alice Hatch
in Policy and Style by Living Winter G2G6 Mach 7 (78.5k points)
retagged by Keith Hathaway
I went ahead and did it, after I found a profile for Elizabeth, albeit with an error in the husband's name, and not linked in to the family. Edited Alice Elizabeth to Alice. Assigned the profiles to the appropriate party.

Working on Alice's many children now, so far not making a new profile. As far as I've gotten, they'e all listed already, but without parents, so the end of the line.
Nice work, Elizabeth. What about the John Leach husband for one of the Alice's? Is that a confirmed second husband?
A mini project about the early settlement of Martha's Vineyard through 1700 might be fun.

Sorry, Jilliane. The wife of John Leach remains an unsolved mystery. In my own tree, I've got him, thinly sourced, with a wife called Alicia, no last name. I got to him, best I can tell, by following clues wherever they led from a 6th great grandfather named Churchill. Here's what ancestry.com says about how John Leach is related to me:

paternal grandfather of wife of stepson of wife of uncle of husband of 1st cousin 6x removed (which looks like one of those "connected to AJ" trails.)

OK, I think I know maybe how I got to John Leach: I have, on ancestry.com, taken up the practice of always adding the full family whenever I come across "Mayflower Births and Deaths, Vol. 1 and 2" hints. John's son Nehemiah's wife, Mercy Bryant, carries that source. Ditto on Solomon Leach's wife Hannah, whose LNAB is also Leach. There's no Leaches or Bryants on the Mayflower, Fortune, Anne or Little James, so the actual Mayflower connection lies elsewhere. (Ha! Looks like you got me working on it!)

The Leaches, what little I have on them, don't show a Martha's Vineyard connection. They're mosty around Plymouth Colony/County. I have no parents for John, no maiden name for wife Alicia. I have two children listed - no reason to think there's not more, as shown on the Leach-271 profile.

Looking into this little problem prompted me to merge two John Leach profiles in my own tree. But it's not really my bailiwick. Leach-271 seems to be in order, albeit unsourced. I suspect someone took a leap of faith and linked Alice Eddy as his wife. Sometimes those work out, sometimes they don't. IMO, John Leach's wife s/b Alice Unknown. I've read histories on Alice Eddy's husband Benjamin Hatch, a very early settler of Falmouth. Alice (Eddy) Hatch's last child, Zephaniah, was born in 1709. She died in 1710.

John Leach and his wife Alice (Alicia?), according to WikiTree, had 7 children before 1710. So it cannot be the same Alice. Even if her LNAB was Eddy, it's a different Alice Eddy. I see there was a comment on Eddy-79 about this problem last summer, observing that she could not have been married to both men at once, giving birth to both their children over the same span of years. It was not acted on. I'm going to remove Alice Eddy from John Leach and his children. His wife was somebody other than Eddy-79. A quick search didn't turn up any potential John Leach duplicates to shed light on this problem.

Alice Eddy, Eddy-11, on the other hand, is a direct ancestor. That part of the tree was thoroughly researched (before I was born) by my grandfather (& his father & brother) - as was the Churchill ancestry for that matter.

Meanwhile: Looking at the biography of Benjamin Hatch, Alice Eddy's husband, it has been merged a few times. It lists 5 different GedComs from which it was "originally created", and I've just offered up another merge, which will bring it to 6 different GedComs. Which, I guess, is par for the course here on WikiTree, isn't it?
Yep. The further back you go, the more GEDCOMs. Personally, I do not find the listing of all these GEDCOMs at all helpful. But others have made a case for leaving the list visible.
I did leave them all listed in acknowledgements. Not for a thank you so much as to leave a record of the multiple uploads.

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