Joseph Geißinger died in Würzburg - Civil Death Record?

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Hello, on the Profile https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Geissinger-191 of Heinrich Joseph Geißinger, I have the transciption of a catholic burial record (available online at FamilySearch) with notes that he died in Würzburg. 

In this respect two questions:

* Is someone able to reach out to the Würzburg Civil Death records ? And could identify the age of the dead Joseph ? Per record in Zweibrücken the dead was on July 10th, 1899.

* Any addition on the transscript, I have not identified this "ripont." or "Ripontino" - either misread or very special latin word. 

Thanks in advance.

WikiTree profile: Heinrich Joseph Geissinger
in Genealogy Help by Alexandra-Brigitte Scholz G2G6 Mach 4 (40.8k points)
Thank you all for the comments and answers.  I can confirm, that Ripontino should be Bipontino, which is the latin for the town Zweibrücken. I got a private message on that point as well

Also yes, I mixed "obiit" and "sepultus". Joseph Geisinger died in Zweibrücken and was burried in Würzburg. I have no idea why the body was transferred to Würzburg. Also I do not have access to the civil records in Zweibrücken 1899 to verify his age. The records online (familysearch) stop at 1875.

I updated the research notes of profile with above and links to newspaper articles available online at the Bavarian Library (BSB) about a Josef Geisinger imprisoned in Ludwigshafen, who is likely the same person.

So if someone finds something else on this Josef, please let me know.

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55.

Geisinger Josephus

10. Jul.

(Carcer Ripont.)

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Anno Domini millesimo octingentesimo nonagesimo nono die decima mensis Juli obit in carcere Ripontino Josephus Geisinger, filius legitimus Josephi Geisinger et Franciscae Glock conjugum in Ludwigshafen, omnibus morientium sacramentis riteprerisus, qui sepultus est in Würzburg.

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by Dieter Lewerenz G2G Astronaut (3.1m points)
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55.

Geisinger Josephus

10. Jul.

(Gefängnis Ripontino)

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Im Jahre des Herrn Achtzehnhundertneunundneunzig, am 10. Tag des Juli starb im Gefängnis von Ripontino Josephus Geisinger, legitimer Sohn des Joseph Geisinger und seiner Ehefrau Francisca Glock in Ludwigshafen, der in Würzburg beigesetzt wurde.

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55.
Geisinger Josephus
10 Jul.
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In the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and ninety-nine, on the 10th day of July died in the prison of Ripontino Josephus Geisinger, legitimate son of Joseph Geisinger and his wife Francisca Glock in Ludwigshafen, who was buried in Würzburg.
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If "carcere Ripontino" was misinterpreted to mean "carcere repentino", it would be suddenly in prison.
There is a third possibility: "carcere Ripontino" could be "carcere Bipontino". Bi=zwei (two), Pontino - pontus = Brücke (bridge). That mean Bipontino = Zweibrücken.

The meaning would be then: He died in the prison of Zweibrücken.
Good point, Dieter. If you look at where Carcer is mentioned twice in entry number 57 on the opposite page, the word looks more like "Bipont[ino]" than "Ripont[ino]".
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is it possible that under the death date in the left column is the cause of death? As I don't know latin, I don't have a clue what it could mean though.
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