2022 WikiTree Challenge 2: Paul Gilmartin - Now ongoing

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Hi WikiTreers! 

The second 2022 WikiTree Challenge event is here. Our featured guest is stand-up comedian Paul Gilmartin. He's best known as the longtime host of TBS TV's Dinner and a Movie. Since 2011, he has been the host and executive producer of the podcast The Mental Illness Happy Hour.

Our challenge is to uncover as much as possible about Paul's family history in one week. Registration has ended but you are still welcome to help us. Comment below the appropriate great-grandparents answer to let others who you are working on. When done, or taking a break, add Research Notes to the profile for the next person. Don't forget to add your interesting finds to the Space page

The challenge week started on Thursday, January 20, 12pm noon EST, and will end Thursday, January 27, at noon EST. 

Here are the current scores.

P.S. If you have questions or suggestions, post them below as answers. Comments at the top will be hidden after they are read once.

WikiTree profile: Paul Gilmartin
in The Tree House by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (680k points)
edited ago by Mindy Silva

62 Answers

+5 votes

Comment here if you make a new connection to the global tree on Paul’s great-grandfather Thomas P. Gilmartin's line, or have questions or research notes on this line.

by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (680k points)
reshown ago by Mindy Silva
I will be working on filling out profiles and sources for the children and grandchildren of Thomas and Mary.
Karen, I have the death certificate for Thomas. I'll email that to you.
Thanks!
Mindy, I started some discussion about Thomas P's death date because I found a death notice in Philadelphia for him and edited that on his profile. Do you have a Philadelphia death certificate?
I sent that to Karen, do you want a copy of it Fran?
I'm working on Thomas P Gilmartin and trying to leap the pond. Confirmed Oct 1871 immigration as him, with his son's Passport application confirming. Added sources to his profile and cleaned it up. Working on possible birth record and confirmation of it in Co Mayo now.
There are unsourced ancestry trees that list Thomas P's parents as Charles and Anna, with no documentation, probably because his first son was Charles and second daughter Anna (traditional Irish naming pattern). However, he was 18 when he immigrated in Oct 1871, and an Apr 1853 baptism was found for Thomas Gilmartin, son of Patrick Gilmartin and Ann Gouly in Co Mayo where he was born. This certainly looks like him. This family was from Killala Parish in Co Mayo.
Nice sleuthing, Craig! Let us know what else you find.
Mindy, did you send a PA DC or a NY DC? I found the death notice for a PA Thomas P. I'm hoping someone can find a Philadelphia DC.
Just the NY, which I know now is wrong.
For some reason, have been unable to find a death certificate for Thomas yet, gave it a try. So that (or an obit) remains an active action item.
I added the source for his Death Notice today.
William J. Gilmartin is 27 degrees from me (Julie Holland).

GO TEAM!

Julie Holland
Found an obituary which confirms the children
Nice find Melanie!
+3 votes

Comment here if you make a new connection to the global tree on Paul’s great-grandmother Mary J. McCormick's line, or have questions or research notes on this line.

by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (680k points)
reshown ago by Mindy Silva
I am starting on this line
Ok this is a 'rubbish' link but I've just seen a possibility that J J McCormick could have been a professional baseball player (not for long 1 season maybe) I will see if I can find anything more

Jerry McCormick Not sure if he's our guy!!

James J 'Jerry' McCormick the death link to his profile? is it certain because its now looking better

wikipedia page for Jerry couldn't find anything then finding quite a bit 

His obit mentions brother-in-law Thomas Gilmartin. The 9-11-05 death date does match the baseball player..

Professional baseball player 1883-1884. Played for the Baltimore Orioles, Philadelphia Keystones and the Washington Nationals.

causes of death: Tuberculosis , via findagrave

We confirmed [[McCormick-7435|James J McCormick]] the baseball player is a brother of Mary after further examination of records, finding him on 1900 census with sister Ellen, finding her death certificate (same parents as Mary’s death certificate) and listing brother in law Thomas Gilmartin on death notice. It’s a match. Updates made to his profile with documentation.

Nice sleuthing Heather and Craig!
We're still expanding William McCormick's family and trying to find a clue to get it back to Ireland. Looking at a possible brother for William, additional children, and some promising immigration documents.
Just throwing this in the mix, because I've seen it in two families I have worked on, Could William have gone back to Ireland to find a 2nd wife? Or are we assuming that Bridget is actually older which does seem to happen a lot with Irish Families.
We've now pushed Bridget (called Biddy) back to 1820-1825 for a date of birth. She has another child, Catherine (probably the last we'll be able to add, unless an 1870 census shows up with younger ones). I just put research notes for two possible immigration records for her on the profile. We also have a mystery person living with them in 1860, Cath McBride, age 70.
I added James McCormick on Jan 20th as the brother of Mary Jane McCormick. I didn't realize we were supposed to make a note on G2G... beginner!
+3 votes

Comment here if you make a new connection to the global tree on Paul’s great-grandfather Joseph I. O'Donnell's line, or have questions or research notes on this line.

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by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (680k points)
edited ago by Mindy Silva
I will see what I can add for Joseph O'Donnell O'Donnell-3978
I connected his G-grandfather [[O'Donnell-3978|Joseph Ignatius Stanislaus O'Donnell Sr. (1873-1948)]] to his GG-grandparents [[O'Donnell-3979|Hugh J O'Donnell (1840-)]] who were already existing.  But I see that Hugh isn't connected to the tree yet ... so I don't think that is a good connection
Adding children and bio to GG-Grandfather Hugh O'Donnell

Connected Paul to the main tree through the O'donnell line.....G-grandfather O'Donnell-3978 > sister O'Donnell-4011 > son Gibson-24004  > wife Morrison-17324 > mother Travis-3846 > mother Trexler-494 > father Trexler-373 (main tree existing profile)

Nice work Donna!
+4 votes

Comment here if you make a new connection to the global tree on Paul’s great-grandmother Mary Stella (McCoy) O'Donnell's line, or have questions or research notes on this line.

by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (680k points)
reshown ago by Mindy Silva
I am working on Julia Kennedy McCoy.
I think I'm going to start fleshing out some of the siblings.

Update: So I when down the rabbit hole of Julia's parents which are listed on Ancestry as James Kennedy and Mary Whelan.  The issue is that while there are baptism records that support it, it also lists James Kennedy's DOB of around 1837, which would make Dad around 10-12 years of age when Julia is born.  I'm going to keep looking...
I was fleshing out Julia’s children.
My apologies for overstepping. I assumed that there were enough siblings for both of us to work on. I'll find another path to help with. = )
We can both work on them. I wasn’t sure if you meant the same generation that I was on. I worked on Alex and Julie McCoy’s children, I couldn’t prove Annie’s marriage. So you can look at that. I could work on John Patrick’s children and Alexander Jr. family. I haven’t started on Ellen, Julia or Joseph
I have just initiated two merges Julia McCoy and her husband Ignatius.I was just about to add his Father and a match came up , It didn't (I am sure when I created Ignatius.) The line might be connected when the merge is completed
Ignatius has been merged already! wow
Nice collaboration Nancy & Staci! I love it!
Which Julia is this merge about?

Julia Mccoy daughter of Alexander Mccoy and Julia Kennedy

+3 votes

Comment here if you make a new connection to the global tree on Paul’s great-grandfather Frank Fisher's line, or have questions or research notes on this line.

by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (680k points)
reshown ago by Mindy Silva
As soon as this starts, I will be working on this profile. I have a number of records for him, then, once his profile is done I will work on his children and leave his parents for others.
Thanks Lin! I know you've already found some fantastic things for this line.
I added his mother since she was in the US in 1900 and so I could add his sister. Working on his children; will add second wife and step children later today.
I just found a birth record for Francois Xavier son of Francois Xavier LaBoissonnier and Henriette Francouer.
Pulled up some marriage & baptism records that connected two different branches of this line, the Laboissonnières & Lamares- Eric & I were having a little back & forth on pulling up the records needed so we could create the necessary profiles there.
Thanks Lin, Eric, and Thomas! I've been following the Discord conversation, you guys are doing great!
IF Frank married Dorothy Beryl Miller (nee Methany) his step son was Frank Ward Miller a TV Actor. IF they did marry she later married  James Benjamin Wilson..
+3 votes

Comment here if you make a new connection to the global tree on Paul’s great-grandmother Nelly (Putran) Fisher's line, or have questions or research notes on this line.

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by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (680k points)
edited ago by Mindy Silva

I almost have sufficient information to connect this line to the global tree (which I'll do after noon EST)  A few highlights of what I've found so far.  This one was tough.

1. The name is not PUTRAN.  That was a mis-spelling on the Marriage record in Maine.  They butchered the French name POITRAS which was her actual maiden name.  I'll be proposing a MERGE as Marie-Helene already exists as Poitras-344

2. Frank FISHER already exists on Wikitree as well so I'll be proposing a merge of Fisher-11411 into Fisher-25846

3. Marie-Helen POITRAS was not born a POITRAS so after we get a merge done I'll need to request a LNAB change.  She is actually the daughter of her mother's first husband (Unknown GODIN) Godin-613 and her birth name was Godin.  She took Poitras after her mother remarried when she was quite young.

That's quite a bit of info to star with.  I will get more to link her to the Global Tree.  French-Canadian ancestry is very well researched.

Thanks for that research Matthew! Let me know if you need help once the challenge starts today.

I connected Nellie's mother Emilie Michaud to her parents.

Actually I'm going to revert this, I think I am confusing two Emilies.

Nice research Karen.
+3 votes

Comment here if you make a new connection to the global tree on Paul’s great-grandfather Jean Charles Morneault's line, or have questions or research notes on this line.

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by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (680k points)
edited ago by Mindy Silva

I've just connected Irene (Catherine Morneault's husband) Looks like his Father was married at least three times!!

Francois Isaie Albert

  

Wow that line goes back a long way!

I linked Sophie St-Onge to her parents and added her baptism for proof - her ancestors are all already here.

I linked Barbe Cormier to her parents and added her baptism record as the source. Her ancestors were already on the tree.

Charles Morneau-110 was conected to the wrong parents.  His father is Alexis Morneau, brother of the father currently attached.  I will make the changes.

Nice job Heather.
Thank you Karen.

Working on adding children to Charles Morneault -23

I have been working on a Sinclair Family that is connected to the Morneault Family (Yes they are sending me dizzy with all these repeating surnames!) thought Irish Family History was hard work but think The French Canadian Ancestry now wins!. I found that the Sinclair(e) sometime become St Clair and even Saint-Clair, I have found out a lot by looking at this family in MAINE I didn't realise it had a high concentrate of French Canadians by descent.

Anyway I have now got a puzzle I have three children from one of the Sinclairs (St Clairs) in an Asylum (1900 Census) ? Is an Asylum in Maine like a Poor House / Work House in UK? Asylum means something different in UK.

I have still to find the Parents as I didn't think they had died need to check this. HELP!

This is such an oddity I need to run it by everyone, Alphonse Morneault moves from Maine to Cambridge Massachuettes and this has just come up! Patent for shoe polishing kit 

+4 votes

Comment here if you make a new connection to the global tree on Paul’s great-grandmother Susanne Cyr's line, or have questions or research notes on this line.

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by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (680k points)
edited ago by Mindy Silva
I want to work on the Cyr line

Connected sideways to her daughter Sophie's father-in-law Severin Theriault.

Also connected Severin's father-in-law Henri Cyr, who has y-DNA, mtDNA, and autosomal relatives among our members. smiley

I have connected her father, Alexis Cyr, with his parents, Paul Cyr, Jr. and Salomee Thibodeau. This is I believe is where Paul Gilmartin's name comes from. This Thibodeau line has already been built, but Paul Cyr Jr.'s parents, Paul Sr. and Charlotte Ayotte, as of yet are not built that I know of. I will be working on this line further.
I have now located the parents of Paul Cyr, Jr. already created on WikiTree. His mother was Marie-Charlotte Ayotte and that is why I didn't find her at first.

The Alexis Cyr line is now fully connected to WikiTree! Very exciting! More sourcing for the vitals along with profile work and they will improve.
Philomene Cyr, daughter of Frederic Cyr and Susanne Mercure, is now fully attached to the global tree, meaning that Susanne Cyr's branch is now completely attached!

There is a lot of intermarriage between families, more than I am used to seeing in Quebecois profiles... I knew I had many cousins in this line! Je me souviens
Nice research Darrell.
Thank you! It is a team effort and that's the best part!

I'll work on Paul Cyr-949 children

+12 votes
Sign me up!
by Tommy Buch G2G6 Pilot (516k points)
reshown by Mindy Silva
Yay Tommy!
+13 votes
Sign me up too!
by Derlin Clair G2G2 (2.1k points)
Great Derlin! Thanks!!
Best wishes to you tto,my dear friend,and God bless you.the comedian's last name,Gilmartin sounds kind of French to me,friend.
The French also used Martin a lot just like the Irish, so I don't blame you for thinking that it was possibly French!

From what I can see his maternal great-grandmother Suzanne Cyr goes back to France 

Perhaps,Gilmartin comes from thename of an Anglo-Norman family who settled in Ireland after 1170,my friend.Just like the De Clare family.
I'm a De Clare descendant myself, so yes it is possible!

Larocque is Scottish in origin, so it works in reverse as well :P
+13 votes
Count me in please
by Anon Sharkey G2G6 Mach 4 (40.3k points)
Great Anon! Thanks!!
+12 votes
I would like to help with this one. :)
by Eowyn Walker G2G Astronaut (1.8m points)
Great Eowyn! Thanks!!
+13 votes
Count me in!
by Kathy Rabenstein G2G6 Pilot (271k points)
Great Kathy! Thanks!
+12 votes
Willng to help
by Brenda Freiert G2G Crew (900 points)
Great Brenda! Thanks!!
+11 votes
I will try to help, if there are German lines.
by Dieter Lewerenz G2G Astronaut (1.6m points)
Thanks Dieter! I'm not sure about his locations yet.
+11 votes
I'll see what I can do for this Challenge as well. Like Dieter, German focus if there exists any.
by Steven Greenwood G2G6 Mach 2 (26.8k points)
Great Steven! Hopefully something pops up for you to work on.
+11 votes
I will try to help
by Micah Anin G2G Crew (530 points)
Great Micah! Thanks!
+11 votes
Please sign me up.
by Paddy Waldron G2G4 (4.2k points)
Great Paddy! Thanks!!
+10 votes
I would like to participate as well. I might not be able to contribute too much, but I will do what I can.
by Chris Whitten G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
Great Chris! Thanks!!
+11 votes
I'll be happy to give it a try! Sounds like fun!
by Frances Ulmer G2G Crew (530 points)
Great Frances! Thanks!!

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