Has any Y-DNA testing been done for male Martin descendants relative to Christian Pettus??

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Have any male descendants of John Martin, Jr. had Y-DNA testing done, specifically to verify the Native American heritage of his wife, Christian Pettus Martin?

John Martin, Jr. was born in 1630 in Rappahannock, Essex County, Virginia to John Martin (1612-1666) and Martha Ann Keeling (1618-1688). 

John Martin, Jr. and Christian Pettus married in Virginia ca 1652, with Christian Pettus being the daughter of Ka-Okee Powhatan (b. 1612) and Thomas Pettus (b. 1598). They  had children Rebecca Martin (b. 1654), Christian Martin (b. 1655), Martha Martin (b. 1655), Francis Martin (b. 1657), John (b. 1659), Christian Martin (b. 1660), Mary Martin (b. 1660), and Anne Martin (b. 1663).

The WikiTree entry for John Martin, Jr. (Martin-39994) lists no spouse and no children, and needs to be updated.

WikiTree profile: John Martin
in Genealogy Help by Doug Shannon G2G4 (4.3k points)
You would need to test mitochondrial DNA from a direct-line female descendant of Christian.  Both of her daughters, Christian and Ann, also had daughters, but I don’t know if they too had daughters.  

And of course it’s possible that Ann and the second Christian had different mothers since there are no records for any marriage of John Martin.  He only exists in a few land records.  We only know about wife Christian because of a land dispute after John’s death.

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In that scenario, testing the Y chromosome of descendants of John Martin Jr. would reveal nothing at all about possible Native American origin. The nonrecombinant yDNA would have come exclusively from John Martin Jr.'s father; it would have had no bearing on the presumed Christian Pettus or her lineage.

I remember searching fairly rigorously in 2020 for any definitive reference at all to yDNA from the supposed Powhatan/Pettus connection because someone had located mention of it in a blog post. However, I was never able to locate anything substantive to indicate that any such yDNA evidence existed.

Regardless, you would need unbroken patrilineal lines to test, and in the description as stated the yDNA origination points would be John Martin (Sr.) and Thomas Pettus (ca 1552), not NA lineage, and both descendants of interest are--whether mythical or not--Native American women, so the yDNA inheritance ends there. There are two 111 STR test takers on WikiTree who show they descend from Thomas Pettus, and the derived haplogroup is the decidedly European R-DF27.

Edited for clarification.

by Edison Williams G2G6 Pilot (441k points)
edited by Edison Williams
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John Martin’s profile is at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Martin-30281

He had only three identified children, Ann, Christian, and John.  

John, Jr’s (believed to be the son of John Martin and Christian) profile is at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Martin-45437

by Kathie Forbes G2G6 Pilot (868k points)
Ah; thanks, Kathie. And if that profile for Martin-45437 is correct, he had two daughters, Elizabeth and Mary. If he had no other children, John Martin's (ca 1640; Martin-30281) yDNA stopped with Martin-45437.
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Have you checked FTDA, or a Facebook group?
by David Anthony Taylor G2G6 Mach 1 (16.7k points)

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