Usage of Holocaust Camps categories for other people in those camps

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I've made some profiles for people who were imprisoned or who died in Nazi concentration camps. In trying to categorize these people, I've found this category called Holocaust Camps. This category contains all these concentration camps.

However all categories have the format "Holocaust Camps, <Name>". As far as I know the Holocaust only includes the genocide on Jewish people, not the other atrocities of the Nazis. The camps were also used to kill and imprison Roma and Sinti, political prisoners, resistance members and other people.

So my questions are:

1) Can I use these categories for other people who were in these camps?

2a) If no, do other concentration camp categories exist?

2b) If yes, shouldn't the categories be named differently, to make it clear it isn't just for Holocaust victims?

in Policy and Style by Koen van Hoof G2G6 Mach 7 (73.5k points)
I believe homosexuals and Jehovah Witnesses were included as well.

3 Answers

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Koen, I will alert Steve Harris, and our category team, about this issue.
by Maggie N. G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
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I don't see that there needs to be a change to them, if you look at Category:Holocaust Camps, Dachau the description makes it plain that there were not only Jewish prisoners. Same for Bergen-Belsen  

Maybe the confusion arises from the term Holocaust being used in category names for these camps, rather than Concentration Camps.  But the structure I believe was created by the Holocaust project (I could be wrong).  Whose focus is obviously on the Jewish decimation.

I would use the existing categories for the camps on the profiles you are working on, they do state there were others in there.

by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (659k points)
Thanks!

It's indeed the term Holocaust in the title that confuses me whether I can use the category for non-Holocaust victims.
I agree with Danielle, the naming scheme appears to have been part of the Holocaust Project, but is most likely not limited to just European Jews.
+7 votes

May I quote the following from Yadvashem.org 

 The Holocaust was the murder of approximately six million Jews by the Nazis and their collaborators. Between the German invasion of the Soviet Union in the summer of 1941 and the end of the war in Europe in May 1945, Nazi Germany and its accomplices strove to murder every Jew under their domination. Because Nazi discrimination against the Jews began with Hitler's accession to power in January 1933, many historians consider this the start of the Holocaust era. The Jews were not the only victims of Hitler's regime, but they were the only group that the Nazis sought to destroy entirely. The term Holocaust is defined by the New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary of the English Language (1989) as a large-scale sacrifice or destruction, especially of life, especially by fire. As the research of Jon Petrie shows, Holocaust was already used by some writers during the war itself to describe what was happening to the Jews. Alongside it, various other terms such as destruction, disaster, and catastrophe have been and are still being used today to describe the fate of the Jews in Nazi-dominated Europe, although the dominant usage in American English since the middle of the 1960s is of the word Holocaust. In Hebrew, the word Shoah is used, and it appears more and more frequently in English-language texts. Genocide is a legal term for the destruction of the essential foundations of the life of national groups. It may include, but does not necessarily include, the physical annihilation of the group. The Holocaust is an expression, and arguably the most extreme expression, of genocide.”

Categorization should be simplified as much as possible.

by Andrew Field G2G6 Mach 3 (36.7k points)

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