I swear whenever I start looking into my Joseph Babin's I end up so confused... I'll try to minimize it the best I can while I explain.
My 2x ggf was Auguste Francois Babin b. 1778, bt in St James Parish. His parents are Joseph Babin and Marie Landry. Neither his baptism or marriage record give the names of his grandparents.
This is where it gets confusing. There are two Joseph Babin / Marie Landry married pairs in LA at the same time. One wed in Feb 1768 in Cabanocey (I'll call these couple 1) and one in Jun 1768 in what is now Ascencion Parish (I'll call these couple 2; they are who I currently have as my 3x ggfs). I've tried to get the actual marriage records, but the Diocese was unable to find them. They are not recorded in parish record publications either. In various places, the same Marie Landry is used for the spouse in both couples. She is listed as Anne Marie or Marie Anne and d/o Abraham & Marguerite Flan. She mostly goes by Marie.
First let me say that I know if I am able to use DNA haplogroup (Hpg) to figure this out, it will have to be by working with sisters of the two Josephs. For Couple 1, I don't have a profile in mind here on wikitree, but for Couple 2...[Babin-1521] works as her marriage record does indicate her mother was Angelique Landry.
Joseph of couple 1 is the s/o Joseph Babin & Anne Theriot. Her Hpg should be H1 from Francoise Corbineau. Joseph of couple 2 is the s/o Joseph Babin & Angelique Landry. Her Hpg should be H4A from Perrine Rau. Couple 1 is best represented by [Babin-1566] and Couple 2 by [Babin-22].
The Acadian Memorial Database doesn't mention Couple 2. They show Couple 1 as parents of 3 children: Louis b. 1763 (before marriage--Acadians in Gray says from another marriage), Marguerite b. Dec 1769, and Elizabeth b. 1771. The 1769 Cabanocey census is definitely this couple as Anne Theriot is present; however son Louis is not.(?)
Looking at DIOBR there are the following children born to "A" Joseph Babin & Marie Landry. None of the records give grand-parents names (figures...)
Elizabeth/Isabelle bt. 23 May 1771 (SJA-1,9)
Marie Marguerite b. 27 Mar 1773 (ASC-1,13)
Jean Louis b. 17 Nov 1775 (ASC-1,34)
Josephe bt. 31 Mar 1777 (SJA-1, 33a)
Augustin bn 27 Nov 1778 (ASC-1,51)-note sponsor w/ same name as spouse of Joseph #2's sister M. Magdeleine who wed Pierre LeBlanc
M. Magdelena b 12 Mar 1780 (ASC-1, 101)-her future spouse Joseph Roger seems to be witness at Augustin's marriage in 1800. Augustin is desc. as Augusto of St. James Parish- (ASM-2,55)
Juliana b18 Jul 1781 (ASC-1, 76 & 77)
Luisa b 28 Feb 1784 (ASC-1, 101)
Escolastica-- no baptism info, but wed Pedro Bourgeois 12 Feb 1803. (SJA-2,67)
Censuses give us the following:
M. Magdeleine- 9mos old so b. Dec 1769... Sept 1770 Asc Census
Louis- age 14, so b. 1761 (prev. wife?).... Apr 1777 Cab. Census
Elizabeth-age 6, so b. 1771 (same census as above)
Marguerite-age 4, so b 1773 (same census as above)
BUT NO MAGDELEINE b. Dec 1769 from 1770 Census and NO Jean Louis or Josephe who should have been born by then. My Augustin wouldn't be born yet.
Acadian Memorial puts these all as if talking about the same family, but it seems to me that there are two.
I think the M. Magdeleine b. Dec 1769 was a sister to the father of my Augustin... based on it possibly being her spouse who was sponsor at his baptism.
I think the M. Magdeleine b. 1780 is from the same parents as my Augustin, based on her husband being a witness at his marriage.
"Acadians in Gray" has my Augustin being a son of Couple 1... the only son to get married. I used to have Couple 1 as my direct line, but changed it a long time ago.
Now that I've totally confused everything.
IS there currently enough DNA info available on wikitree to confirm/support/disprove that my line goes through Angelique Landry? ... either by looking at Hbg or by looking at the y-DNA of the different Joseph Babins (which I haven't even gone into... since if both options are descended from Antoine b. 1631... wouldn't the results be the same? )
My mtDNA+ results are being processed. Will this help in any way or do I need someone with either Angelique Landry or Anne Theriot in their direct line?
Does the likelihood that the spouse of a known daughter of Angelique Landry was the sponsor at my 2x ggf's baptism at least support the idea? Or am I grasping at straws?
I've now spent most of the day trying to make sense of this question. Help!
It seems, as I feared, that there is not currently enough DNA evidence, nor does it seem likely that there is an individual test that I can take that will clear it up. Hopefully, in time, as more people get tested... it will become clearer.