Adding an existing image to a free space page

Question

I'm trying to add an existing image to a FSP, but having trouble with the naming conventions.
Image: https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Hill-53860

FSP: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess%27s_Girls

I suspect it has something to do with %27 - aphostrophe - but what do I substitute?  I've tried lots of things but keep getting errors

Answer 1

Hi Veronica. After several attempts, I have succeeded in adding the image to the space page for you. The trick was not to use the ID copied with the scissors icon, which comes out as

space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess%27s_Girls

Instead I used

space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess's_Girls

with a real apostrophe instead of %27.

Comments

Thanks so much Jim - much appreciated!

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I'm having the same problem, and no amount of fiddling has helped so far:

Space:House_in_the_Horseshoe%2C_Moore_County%2C_North_Carolina

I tried replacing the %2C with "," and without, still get the "Unable to find a Person or Space record for Space:House_in_the_Horseshoe%2C_Moore_County%2C_North_Carolina" message, or:

"Unable to find a Person or Space record for Space:House_in_the_Horseshoe

Unable to find a Person or Space record for _Moore_County

Unable to find a Person or Space record for _North_Carolina"

It's like it's looking for separate categories in the comma form version...

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Try Space:House_in_the_Horseshoe,_Moore_County,_North_Carolina

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Omg  what a nightmare!  I tried and tried and tried ...finally got it to work only by hand-typing (instead of copying the link and replacing characters)

Thank you!

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The moral for the future is not to use any punctuation, or even spaces, in the Title of a free-space profile. Just use letters and maybe digits. Once the page is created, use the Page Name field to set what appears as the heading: that can have any punctuation you like.

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Agreed!  I'm not sure why it seems to be protocol for USBH...

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Hmm, interesting point, Loretta. Is there a USBH page suggesting that some free-space profile titles should contain punctuation? If so, maybe it can be improved.

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https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:US_Black_Heritage_Index_of_Plantations

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Thanks Loretta. I've suggested a change.

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This is a known Tech issue. Not using punctuation is not reasonable and not a single help page on WikiTree has ever said not to use punctation in titles, so I can only assume they plan to fix the problem in the future.

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To try to bring that assumption into reality, I've now made an improvement proposal which would fix the issue with a software change not requiring modification in user behaviour.

Answer 2

Veronica, your suspicions are right.  Unfortunately, there is nothing you can substitute when entering the name of the page - the name of the page is the name of the page!  The only thing you can do is to change the name of the page.

To do that, create a new space page and do not include any special characters in the name.  I don't even like to use spaces in page names.  I use case to distinguish between words, as in GraphicFileStorage, which I keep as a repository for my images and then put the image template in profiles to display the images from that page where I want them to be located.

After you have a space page that will not cause links to break, you can merge the old page with the new one.  After that, you'll be good to go.

Comments

Thanks Gaile

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Actually, you can use the name of a page with punctuation.  You just need the entity number instead of the spaces and punctuations.

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I tried that, Melanie, and it didn't work, at least in this case. Both of these gave an error message:

• space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess'_Girls
• space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess'_Girls

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Maybe trying Space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess's_Girls might have worked - as the page name seems to be Jess's not Jess.

I have never had the entity name work, just the number. (And I would probably also use the entity number for the hyphen.)

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Right, sorry,  Melanie, I left out an s in both lines in the comment immediately above.

But it's more complicated than that.

If you paste plain text

space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess's_Girls

into the box, it appears there as

space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess&%2339;s_Girls

and that does not work. If you do the paste, then in the box change %23 back to # it does work.

Pasting in

space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess's_Girls

does not work at all.

Using a real apostrophe as in my answer seems simplest. I didn't need to do anything to the hyphen there.

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Using entity numbers for the underscores etc (Space:SAG_Collections_-_ Jess's_Girls), I just added the space page to one of my images (and immediately removed it).

Using the simpler form (Space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess's_Girls) I did the same thing.  The ' did not change on paste.

I used edge browser for the test.

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I used Safari on an iPad. So it's browser-dependent. That makes giving instructions complicated.

Does

space:SAG_Collections_-_Jess's_Girls

work on Edge?

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Yes.  So, for space pages with an apostrophe, that seems to be the simplest - and easiest - way to advise.
For other cases where that does not work, we have the entity numbers - but not the entity names.

Of course, best case scenario would be space pages with no punctuation etc in the url name (because the page can be named anything you like and the url and url name won't change).

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Thanks Melanie, I agree.

There are strong rules on names for categories. Perhaps it would be worth introducing similar rules for free-space profile titles (going forward, not retrospectively).

Note that the title is not the same thing as the page name. The page name (which can be changed on the edit tab) can be anything. It is the name, not the title, which appears at the top of the free-space profile when it is displayed.

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Right, just as my https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:NoDoubleVision has the Page Name of "Home Away From Home for Images" and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Images4G2G is named "Images for G2G".

corrected typo

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Good examples, Melanie.

On the other hand, there seem to be no rules at all about creating free-space profiles at present. That's unusual and refreshing :-)