G2G: Does anyone know the German translation for Preußen? [closed]

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I seem to have Invalid characters in Birth Location. Invalid characters in Death Location.

This is the culprit in question: Königsberg/Preußen, Preußen

Does anyone know the German translation for Preußen?

thanks for your help, Beth

closed with the note: Google gave me the answer
in Policy and Style by Beth Schmillen G2G6 Mach 5 (55.1k points)
closed by Beth Schmillen

Prussia  I googled it

 

ẞ ß - Wikipedia

In German orthography, the letter ß, called Eszett and scharfes S represents the /s/ phoneme in Standard German when following long vowels and diphthongs.

thanks
 


Beth, that character that looks very much like the Greek letter for beta, which I believe is exclusive to the German language, is the equivalent of a double-s, so you can read it as "ss" every time you see it.

While you can use ß here, WikiTree does not accept symbols like "/" in location fields - that was the culprit.


Thanks Gaile ...I always wondered about that ß   ...now I know Can't wait to see what my next culprit will be as I learn to navigate WikiTree~ thanks


You may need to narrow down which Königsberg, there are several listed in Meyer's Gazetteer:

https://s.meyersgaz.org/search?search=K%C3%B6nigsberg

Prussia is it and if you have no "ß" take "ss".

I always use Preußen in the location field of the data section, where I use the correct language for the time/place, but I use Prussia in the biography, which is written in English.


Frank

 narrow down on which Konigsberg? :) I'll have to look into that ...thanks for the search link


What record did you get this location information from? Is it linked back to a particular parish register or civil act register?

edit: I see this came from Ancestry for Amalie Hölzner. The cover of the book says it is from the city of Königsberg, the one that was part of East Prussia, now called Kaliningrad, Russia.

https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/11035003

I would suggest providing a link to the record in the profile. The WikiTree Sourcer plugin will do this for you. For example:
* '''Königsberg\Preussen II, Krs Königsberg > 1879 > Sterberegister''': "Eastern Prussian Provinces, Germany [Poland], Selected Civil Vitals, 1874-1945"<br/>Königsberg\Preussen II, Krs Königsberg > 1879 > Sterberegister > image 860 of 1586<br/>{{Ancestry Sharing|1664105|7b01e1f12ace9758eb7840c63f046b9d6b887ba94f2f654b2f130b53d922751d}} (free access)<br/>Ancestry {{Ancestry Image|60749|42898_srep100}} (subscription required, accessed 8 February 2023)<br/>Amalie Hölzner.

Since the German Empire was created in 1871, you could even make the birth and death location say "Königsberg, Ostpreußen, Preußen, Deutches Kaiserreich"

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The slash is used in German place names as short for 'am' (on the), for places on a river, or in this case 'in', for places in a certain region. But the slash cannot be used in Wikitree location field.

I'd change 'Königsberg/Preußen' to 'Königsberg in Preußen'.
by Koen van Hoof G2G6 Mach 7 (77.9k points)
selected by Beth Schmillen

Thanks!

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Hi Beth, the '/' is most likely the issue. Remove that and see how it goes.
by Steven Harris G2G6 Pilot (816k points)

thanks for the answer about removin the slash. I'll try that now that I know it means Prussia

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