Can anyone assist with the ancestors of EDWARD BOUCHER, 1709 of Wiveliscombe, Somerset.

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I hope that someone can assist - we're trying to find the parents (and further back of Edward Boucher. I've hit the brick wall with this one. This is what we know:

Birth: Before 1641/1656, Milverton, England, UK - unsure of the year

Death:1709, Wiveliscombe, England, UK.

We know that he was a yeoman farmer in the parish of Wiverliscombe, Somerset.

Family Members:Children:Ann Boucher, Edward Boucher, Grace Boucher, John Boucher, Thomas Boucher, Robert Boucher, William (Butcher) Boucher
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Here are my notes:

Our first known ancestor (in Wiveliscombe) is EDWARD BOUCHER "The Elder" of Milverton, alt spelt BUTCHER.  
He took a land grant by copy of Court Roll of Simmon's Holt  (Langley) in the Parish of Wiveliscombe, on 7 May (17 Chas. I) 1641…(description of titles, deeds) on May 7 1641.   
On March 24 1656, Lady Hawley made  a lease to Thomas Hedford of Ester Broadfields for 99 years determinable - based on lives of John Hedford, Thomas Boucher and John Boucher, sons of Edward Boucher of Wiveliscombe. On April 22 1669, Edward Boucher took a grant of Atkin's Tenement at Ford, Wiveliscombe, for the lives of himself and John and Edward, his sons.(This cottage still exists and is known as Atkin's Cottage). He is described as Edward Boucher The Elder of Wiveliscombe.  
His will is dated June 17 1705, proved 23 May 1710  
Buried at Wiveliscombe 18 Nov 1709 .

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I have one partial record for an ancesor of Edward's (I think) from the Church of LDS:

Church of LDS - http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=700034985351&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles&frompage=99

Edward Boucher Birth:  
 North Curry, Somerset, England
Marriage:  07 MAY 1614
 <North Curry, Somerset, England>
Death: 

Johan. Weech Birth:  
 North Curry, Somerset, England
Death: 

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It might be the above Edward - Milverton, North Curry and Wiveliscombe are close together - but he'd have been well over 110 years old (if it was him and he got married in 1614!) Was that possible in the 17th century?

And that's all the information thre generations of Bouchers have been able to find.

 

WikiTree profile: Edward Boucher
in Genealogy Help by Jonathan Boucher G2G Rookie (290 points)
Have you tried:

http://books.google.com/advanced_book_search
and
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Genealogy_Help

Will try to help tomorrow perhaps. Must get the garden planted.
parish register with images and transcription

http://www.pbenyon1.plus.com/H_m_w/Wiv/Mar/B.html
Looks the most promising, you have a tough one, brickwall that is.
It would help to be able to reference children and sibling dates here.
http://www.pbenyon1.plus.com/H_m_w/Wiv/Bur/Br.html
Thanks Michael, I had a good look and found grandchildren, but not him or his parents.

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Hi Michael - I really appreciate the time you took to winkle out those records of the marriages at Wiveliscombe.

All the marriage dates here are after 1709 so they're not him, they may however be one of his sons, or rather grandchildren. I got to that conclusion like this:

The early known date is 1641 - and he dies in 1709 (68 years between those two events). Say he moved to Wiveliscombe at 20? Got married at 25 or30 years old? - so born abt 1616 (died at 93 years old - hence "The Elder"?).

If he was born 1616, could have married in 1640/1646.

By 1656 he had two sons (that's 10 years after marriage at 30)...

1669 (date of land grant) is 24 years after marriage (at 1646).

Taking the next step, if Thomas and John were just born around 1656, they could have got married anytime from around 1681 to1710 (marrying after 50 is probably out). I'm guessing that this means (sorry about the circumlocution, but its all supposition…) that the marriage dates here must therefore be from our Edward's grandchildren.

We know that two of his grandchildren were Edward and Benjamin (and that Benjamin married Joan). The line is okay from there...
by Jonathan Boucher G2G Rookie (290 points)
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Hi I found this birth on the new familysearch site?

name: Edward Butcher
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 22 Jul 1632
baptism/christening place: East Coker, Somerset, England
father's name: Anthony Butcher
indexing project (batch) number: I02525-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1526552

 

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Also this could be his son? From familysearch site?

child: John Butcher
   
name: John Butcher
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Apr 1661
baptism/christening place: Maperton, Somerset, England
father's name: Edward Butcher
indexing project (batch) number: I02117-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1526677

 

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