G2G: Sir William of Olney

Question

Hi, I'm preparing to create a profile for Sir William of Olney, he was the son of Sir Richard Sutton.  So the question: should his LNAB be Sutton?  William took the name of Olney from lands he held.   I have several sources for him on his daughters profile Olney-1353.  Any help would be appreciated.

Answer 1

Based on the way the relevant paragraph in the History and Antiquities of Bucks is phrased, if he didn't assume the lands of Olney until some time after his birth then I guess he would be Sutton LNAB and current last name Olney/de Olney.

Comments

Thank you Elizabeth,  that's what I thought, but I didn't want to make a mistake with his LNAB.

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Sorry, but I think that so far there is very little evidence that confirms that Richard Sutton and William de Olney were father and son.  Certainly Lipscomb's Buckinghamshire doesn't cite any primary sources.

The Charters of the Anglo-Norman Earls of Chester c. 1071-1237, edited by Geoffrey Barraclough, in Charter 338, pp. 339-340, states that he thinks 'de Sutton' has been added later, and that the Olney referred to is Olney in Buckinghamshire, not Olney near Coventry.  Also that Sir William of Olney, is allegedly the son of Sir Richard Sutton.

The article about the Parish of Olney near Warrington in British History Online, from A History of the Country of Buckingham, vol. 4, has no mention of Sir Richard de Sutton, nor of a Sir William de Olney.

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Thank you John,  I'm glad I wasn't in a hurry about creating that profile.