G2G: Kindly help interpreting a marriage record, Okeford Fitzpaine, Dorset 11 Sep 1594

Question

Greetings

Concerning [Snook-3391], kindly assist with the interpretation of his first name which I uploaded to Wikitree based on this source which is also attached to the image I uploaded. www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/1630327:2243

Per the interpretation on Ancestry his first name ends .......at, its been iterpreted as Edward but I question this interpretation because it should end .......rd. The source informs he married ??? maybe Amye H at Okeford-Fitzpaine, Dorset 11 September 1594. (help interpreting her name would be appreciated)

I believe he was the father of Thomas Snooke [Snook-3389] who married and Mary Cabbott or Tabott ... (help interpreting her family name is also required) 5 Feb 1618 in Okeford Fitzpaine, Dorset.  I have a record informing he was baptised 5 October 1600 at Okeford Fitzpaine, on Ancestry ("Snooks of Wessex file") but I can find my origninal source.  This Thomas was the father of Morgan Snook 1 [Snook-366] the progenitor of the Snook mariners and planters of Newfoundland, Canada.  

The privacy level = open, therefore feel free to add information, your interpretation and sources to these individuals.

Many thanks

Paul Snook 

Comments

His first name starts with a T and could be Thomas. Compare with Thomas on the next line.

Amy's last name ends in the margin so I can only see the first three letters. Possibly Lyn- The first letter looks like the L in Longeman on the facing page (page 26).

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Some extra info that might be of interest

There was a Thomas Snowke son of Thomas living in Okeford in 1564. These two were still living in 1582.

Source: Judith Palmer ed. 'Three Tudor Surveys The Manors of Okeford Fitzpaine, Durweston cum Knighton and Lytchett Minster'. 1584-1585 Dorset Record Society, vol 18, 2015.

"Thomas Snowke showed a copy dated 8 June 1564 by which he and Thomas his son, took reversion of 1 tenement with appurtenances, containing by estimation 18 acres of land and 3 acres of meadow. Fine £36 4s 4d  Reny 18s 8d. Two lives remaining Thomas and Thomas

(Appendix A Calendar of the abstract of copyholds taken at Okeford Fitzpaine in 1582 S.R.O. HA 528) p 184

The detailed survey of 1584 shows that Thomas Snoke held in total 26 acres 3 1/2 roods 18 perches of land.  This comprised his house and garden : one tenement with garden adjacent between the land of Thomas White to the South, the tenement of Roger Apowell to the North and abutting to the west over the Queen's Highway. He ' holds a yard opposite between the land of Thomas White esquire to the west and the common riverbank to the east' 

The rest of his copyheld land comprised  four other  plots'closes' and 'inclosures' of between 3 and 8 acres  another  small 'garden' (these seem to have been orchards) and 3 1/2 acres in Fittleford meadow. (pp 112-113)

The river is the Stour. Thomas White was lord of the manor of Fiddleford (Fittleford) and Fiddleford  lies to the North West of the parish mostly in the parish of Sturminster Newton. If you are able to look at this image from Ancestry  ( 1839 Tithe map) his house would have been at the top left of the map maybe at about plot 133.

The survey lists all the copyholders of the manor. Two possible surnames for his wife 

Hyne.(sometimes spelled Hynde) In 1584 there was an Alice Hyne and a  Robert Hynde who held  21 acres. This seems to be  Robert Hyne who presented his copy in 1582 ( in 1564 he held about 20 acres (two lives, Robert Hyne and Walter Tucker) 

 Iles.(sometimes spelled Eyles). John and Alice Iles held 48 acres of   1564 . Three lives remained John, Edward and Alice.

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Many thanks for your detailed research and kindness Helen, you have certainly pointed me in the right direction, with the above commentary. In addition your comment that the word "gemelli" latin for a twin was most helpful.  

I remain perplexed by the name starting with an initial C (or other) with = (two strips crossing it) I interpreted it as Cabott, or Tabott  but I could be wrong, could you kindly offer a suggestion.  

My appreciations

Paul

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Have a look at the T and Cs on this page.https://griffonagedotcom.wordpress.com/2018/07/01/reading-secretary-hand-and-sound-recordings-too/

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Per your suggestion the Griffon site you advised to visit concerning old handwriting letters, intimates the mystery letter could be a T therefore I will write the name as Tabott instead of Cabott.  Again many thanks Helen for such useful assistance.

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Thanks Vance the consensus suggest her first name is A for Amy but her family name remains a mystery.  I have come across Longman before in this register.  regards Paul

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Glad to help Paul. You and my husband might just have some distant connection .His earliest known ancestor was a Henry Forde living in Okeford from before  1574. The family continued living there and in  neigbouring Shillingstone ( Shilling Okeford)  until the 19th c. but sadly there are lots of wives with undiscovered  surnames over the centuries.

Answer 1

Definitely Thomas, but Amy's last name is very difficult - her name looks to be written Amye Han... Might be an idea to compare it to other names, see if there's anything similar, siblings, parents, baptisms, burials etc.

Quick tip, turn off the enhanced image viewer to see more details, it's under the spanner icon on the right. Revealing the original scan sometimes makes things easier to read as they are less contrasty, that is, less of the detail has been lost.

Incidentally if you go to page two of the register there is a baptism for a son, Henry, to a Thomas and Anne Snoke - her name looks like Amy to me ... last entry of 1601.

Comments

Some common names in the area which could be Amy's family - Haimes, Hayne, Hart, and all possible spelling variations thereof. Worth looking in some of the neighbouring parishes for family - it's quite a densely packed part of Dorset with lots of hamlets and villages within walking distance.

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Thanks Mark - I tried your suggestion regarding the spanner tool and the image, it was more clear. The consensus suggest her first name was Amy, her family name remains a mystery.  regards Paul

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You're welcome Paul. Spent many a happy hour trawling through these Dorset village parish registers. I actually have a few Snooks in my family tree, by marriage, from Gillingham, Dorset. Cheers, M.

Answer 2

Definitely Thomas, but I don't think it gives Amy's last name - if you look at some of the other entries, they only have the wife's first name.

Edit typo

Comments

Thanks Gill, the consensus suggests her name is Amy whilst her family name if written is too complex to interpret.  regards Paul