G2G: How do I deal with a Private Profile that is breaking tree/

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REF:: Kirkpatrick-1022's profile on WikiTree

Someone  has made this profile "living" "private" great grandfather unknown - unknown. This broke that limb of my tree and I do not see ancestors anymore.

This profile should be for:

 Andrew Kirkpatrick 1710–1778

BIRTH 1710 • Watties Neach, Dumfrieshire, Scotland

DEATH 1778 • Somerset, New Jersey, USA

my 5th great-grandfather  

How can this be fixed?
WikiTree profile: Andrew Kirkpatrick
in WikiTree Help by Mark Curtis G2G3 (3.8k points)

4 Answers

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Mark, how can you know this profile should be your 5th great grandfather?  Since it is unlisted, all we can know is the last name and the fact that this person has either been marked as living or was born less than 100 years ago with no death date entered.  You would have to be on the trusted list for that profile to be able to see anything more than that.

If you want more information about the profile, you can write to one of the two profile managers.  I saw that one has not been active in 2 years and the other has not been active in 6 years, so you may not get a response from them.

If you end up having to file an Unresponsive Profile Manager request and the manager's profiles end up becoming orphaned, this one will be deleted because it is private.  You could try writing to info @ wikitree.com (without the spaces) to ask if they can determine whether the profile is, indeed, your 5th great grandfather and should be opened.
by Gaile Connolly G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)

Hello Gaile,

please do a google search: >>wikitree "Kirkpatrick-1022"<<

In Germany: One result

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Andrew Kirkpatrick (abt.1720-abt.1777)
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24.03.2023 — Thank you to Rachel Strain for creating WikiTree profile Kirkpatrick-1022 through the import of Grahams and Strains.ged on Mar 12, 2013.

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One month ago: Google could cach the page!

And you can show the complete page in the Google cach!


But how can I change a person out of the 18th century to a living person ...

Someone must have edited birth date and death date.

Sigfried, thank you for that information.  It is very disturbing, though, since the profile is now unlisted, which is reserved for profiles of living persons.  This suggests that someone may have changed or removed the birth and death dates - and maybe more of the information that was in that profile.

This definitely changes my advice to Mark.  I am going to write to WikiTree and ask them to look at the profile to determine who made these changes and why.

Hello Gaile,

maybe you can ask John Kirkpatrick
[[Kirkpatrick-3409]]

Thanks Siegfried, but I'm not going to do that.  I see that you said the profile in question was merged with Kirkpatrick-5499.  That is not so - Kirkpatrick-5499 was created a few weeks ago (by John Kirkpatrick) and looks like it would be a duplicate of the original Kirkpatrick-1022.  If the profiles had been merged, then Kirkpatrick-5499 would no longer exist because the lower number would be the final result of the merge.

I have already written to the WikiTree management and will leave the mess to them to sort out.

I think you are right. They are not merged. :-)

But it seems that there is a mess about Andrew Kirkpatrick.

Two daughters with the same name but different husbands and different birth dates ...

John Kirkpatrick corrected some things in the last days like removing relations. I think that someone "parked" the Kirkpatrick-1022 as a living person to sort  ...

So those with good sources should discuss the correct relations ...

This is exactly what I did.  I "parked" it. I needed to fix some relationship problems.  An uncle was mixed up with a nephew.  The further that I got into sorting it out, the further that I saw that maybe I bit off more than I could chew.  I kept getting emails to merge. It wasn't ready to merge.  Then, I was diagnosed with an aggressive cancer and had to have surgery on May 1.  As you know a head of family cannot be deleted once it is entered.  It can only be merged. So, I tried to zero it all out so that I could come back to it.  I explained all this to the first person that was concerned with me not merging and breaking all the Wikitree rules.  I thought I was understood.  Then my account got locked and I was accused of vandelism.  What I thought was me working on the Tree had turned into vandilism somehow.  I am the one that started that entry of the person.  Why would I vandalize what I started?  Just needed help and I did not have the time at the moment.  So, my decision to zero out what I had put in on this family was just to save the place for me to get back to.  Then, I was unblocked and I felt that I had caused so many problems that maybe I should work on it.  That was when Robin Lee came into the picture.  I tried to explain what was happening.  Again, I was told that I was breaking all the rules.  Getting into other's trees, not merging, Basically, I became a bad wikitree person.  I apoligized to her.

I just wanted to untangle a mistake.

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If you're a relative and you're looking to join the trusted list and the profile is private, you'll have to email info@wikitree.com
by Kevin Conroy G2G6 Pilot (318k points)

Kevin, the profile is not private - it is unlisted.  In either case, however, it is possible to write to the profile manager.

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by Siegfried Keim G2G6 Pilot (106k points)

+2 votes
Hello Mark,

it seems that the profile was merged to
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kirkpatrick-5499

I went to the father
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kirkpatrick-1025

And from there to the son.
by Siegfried Keim G2G6 Pilot (106k points)

This goes even deeper! Kirkpatrick-1025 is most likely the same person as Kirkpatrick-44. Kirkpatrick-5499 is most likely the same person as Kirkpatrick-58.

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