Proposal to remove Reverend John Christian as a son of Patrick Christian

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Patrick ("Patricius") Christian was married in 1683 to Mary Nettles and became the Vicar of Kilrossanty, County Waterford and Prebendary of Lismore Cathedral. At his death in 1687, he named only two children in his will - William (named for his father) and Mary. They would both have been under the age of 5 years when Patrick died, given his marriage date. (see Patrick's profile for details of his will). Unfortunately the parish registers do not survive for either Lismore or Kilrossanty for this period.

The Reverend John Christian of Jurby, Isle of Man must have been born in or before 1673 as he was noted to be the parson of Jurby in 1694/5 in the will of Dollin Cain, the father of John's eventual wife Catherine Cain. This birth year of 1673 is to make him at least 21 in 1694/5, and is ten years before Patrick married Mary Nettles. John had eight sons - none of them were named Patrick (although two were named Dollin).

I propose that unless any evidence is found for these two men being father and son, that they are disconnected.

WikiTree profile: Patricius Christian
in Genealogy Help by Jo Fitz-Henry G2G6 Pilot (193k points)

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My 10th cousin 10 times removed.

Please get it right because someone already cut a pre 1700 branch off of my tree already.

by Doug Tabor G2G6 Pilot (108k points)
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In my opinion more of the Christian lineage is incorrect than correct.  

Documents written at the time or carved in their headstones I think should be used.  

Very time consuming.  I think lots of branches will fall of trees and others rearranged.  

Very complex with so many same named individuals.
by Vickie Mullen G2G3 (3.1k points)
Thanks Vickie. I was recently in County Waterford. The old Anglican churches of Kilrossanty (where Patrick was the Vicar), Affane (where Mary resided in her widowhood) and Mothel (the parish which includes the townland of Old Grange) are now picturesque ruins in the case of the first two, and completely demolished in the case of Mothel. There are later gravestones as Irish church sites still have interments but none from the 17th century and early 18th century.

Lismore Cathedral had Victorian rebuilding works and "improvements" during the 19th century, so the there is now no indication of any interments (floor slab memorials) in the place in the choir where John Nettles had his family vault.

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