Ask Aleš (June 2023) [closed]

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It's time for a new session of "Ask Aleš - What Do You Want To Know About WikiTree Plus?"

See you on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 9:00am EDT aka 13:00 UTC. 

What questions do you have? You can ask by posting an answer below and your question will be answered on June 7. (It's OK if you don't watch live. The June video will remain on YouTube, like the May video.)

If you want to just watch, use this YouTube link.

Greg Clarke will be my co-host.

Answer 1

Hi Aleš,

I have a question. Is there a possibility when you search on the same surname to be able to see the name of the town. For example I have over 5 centuries different families with the same surname all coming from Leiden, The Netherlands. It makes it easier to connect.

With kind regards, Carolina.

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Which surname?

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In Leiden: Bink, Fasseur, Ouwerkerk, Erades/Eradus, Slegtenhorst, Stoute, Dagevos, Planjer, Rembrandt van Rijn etcetera.

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Not to worry about my question.

I found that Wikitree has the possibility to search again at the bottom of each search with  advanced options.

With kind regards, Carolina.

Answer 2

Can I search to see which profiles I manage have a particular sticker?  I have one that I would like to make adjustments to.

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Which one?

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There are three that I'm thinking of:

{{Died Young}} So that I can change the graphic

{{Notables Sticker}} So that I can add a specific category

{{Roll of Honor|category=Killed in Action, Confederate States of America, United States Civil War|image=Roll of Honor Template-15.jpg|description=|war= the United States Civil War}} So that I can add a description

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Many Thanks for the demo.  So easy!

Answer 3

Hello Aleš,

Only if you have time for this one as it more curiosity than need.

I noticed my CC7 count went up and wondered It I could see what the actual profiles added were?   

I'm afraid I could not find a way to see the additions.

NG Hill

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I am looking into developing something for this.

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Thank you Aleš, I have been curious about that.

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- Thank you Ales - that will be great - -

Answer 4

A question for next month:

The maps.osi.ie website by Ordnance Survey Ireland shut down a few years ago, creating lots of dead links, including from some biographies in WikiTree profiles which I manage.

The URLs include map coordinates e.g.
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,504135,631212,6,7

Could an editbot use these coordinates to link to some other map site which still works (e.g. WikiTree+)?

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What was the intent of the link? Just the map?

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I checked and that domain is used only on 10 profiles. You should correct that manually. You can find them here:

https://plus.wikitree.com/default.htm?report=srch1&Query=maps_osi_ie

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I tried that search earlier myself, but didn't realise that I had to change maps.osi.ie to maps_osi_ie!  I am responsible for nine of the ten instances, but I am glad to see that one other WikiTree user also used the website and has failed to find a better alternative since it evaporated.

Whether the changes are made manually or by a bot is immaterial.

The real problem is to come up with a new URL that works either directly by including the map co-ordinates which are embedded in the dead link (which could be done manually), or indirectly by using some other co-ordinates derived from them (which might require a bot).

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I don't know what kind of a map you want to display.

There is also a problem with the coordinate. It is not in WGS coordinate system, that everyone supports. It looks like a local coordinate system, that I don't know. You will have to find a location manually.

There are many maps available.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=7/53.7971805/-7.0334543

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.7971805,-7.0334543,13z

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The Coordinate System is Irish Transverse Mercator:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Transverse_Mercator

In the downgraded system at
https://webapps.geohive.ie/mapviewer/index.html
one must click the icon near the top right for "Zoom To Coordinate" and manually enter (or at least copy-and-paste) the separate Easting and Northing coordinates, for example 504135 and 631212 respectively from
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,504135,631212,6,7
Then one can click the icon near the top left for Basemap Gallery and select, for example, MapGenie 6 Inch First Edition Colour.

However, none of these clicks is reflected in the URL, so it is unclear how one can bookmark the exact map location as one could before the better system evaporated!

While there are only 10 of these broken links on WikiTree, there are hundreds or thousands of others on other websites (and especially in my offline genealogy database in profiles which still have to be uploaded to WikiTree!).

There is a converter at
https://www.fieldenmaps.info/cconv/cconv_ie.html
which tells me that the point of interest in this example, using the WGS84/ETRS89 coordinates, is at
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/52.42399165/-9.40950393
and
https://www.google.com/maps/@52.42399165,-9.40950393,13z
but neither of those links puts a marker at the exact point on the map as the original maps.osi.ie did.

I can add a marker at the exact point in Google Maps, but I can't see any way to bookmark or share that marker - the Share link seems to bring one to New Orleans (the first pin that I added to my map) instead of to County Kerry (the most recent pin that I added to my map):
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=13rpECXWc6cGBVMz6UaA9SBJc83A&usp=sharing

I was hoping that there might be a way to create a link to a marker at an exact point of interest at
https://plus.wikitree.com/maps

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There might be, but we can't agree on a way to add a coordinate to a profile. There was an idea using Event template, but its implementation was stopped. So for now it is not possible.

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Too bad.  Let's hope someone revives that idea!  Thanks for all your help and advice.