BillionGraves cemetery event, will you help break a world record?

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On June 25th of this year, BillionGraves is attempting to set a world record "for the most participants to upload gravestones images in 24 hours" using their app. I think this would be a great event and would love if others joined. In connection, a cemetery challenge could be done for either transcribing or adding images to headstones. 

https://billiongraves.com/rescue

If anyone wants more information on how to upload photos to BillionGraves, via the app, here are some training videos that might be helpful to you.

https://billiongraves.com/volunteer#resources 

in The Tree House by Kristin Anderson G2G6 Mach 5 (55.9k points)
edited by Kristin Anderson

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After having just finished a cemetery challenge for uploading images of headstones, I realized that I am still missing many from the cemetery I was focused on.  The images I am missing are the newer ones.  This may be just the motivation to go take more pictures. Another cemetery challenge would be icing on that cake.
by Gurney Thompson G2G6 Pilot (569k points)
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Ok, so I have a legitimate question: If I take a picture, upload to their site, do they become the copyright holder?  So now, I decide to use my photo in a profile, but I can't because I uploaded to their site.  Or how does that work?  This is complicated stuff!surprise

Then another question, which is probably obvious, is that I upload all my original tombstone pictures that I have already used on Wikitree, then do I now have to remove my pictures?  Bahahahah  I think I'll sit this one out!devil

by David Draper G2G Astronaut (4.9m points)
edited by David Draper

They do not become the copyright holder. I have asked them this and they have confirmed that photos you personally take are yours to use as you like. I have added photos that I have taken using their app to wikitree profiles many times, so all good there.  

Also I found this in their helpdesk area:

Can I share photos found on your website with other sites and use them for my own research?

BillionGraves' Terms of Use and Privacy Policy allow any user to use the photos for their personal research and non-commercial projects. If you are using them on your family tree in public spaces, we ask that you credit the volunteer photographer of the record and a link back to the BillionGraves website. 

Edit: Unlike Find A Grave, uploading pictures from your computer doesn't count, the photos have to be taken via the app.

According to the copyright law, once a photo or item is published on the web or anywhere viewable by the public, it becomes public domain.  To avoid that with whatever personal items you add to anything viewable by the public, you have two choices: file your items with the Library of Congress copyright office as a collection.  They research them to see if any are already copyrighted.  If not, they will issue you a document with a file number and include it in their files.  When I got one several years ago, it is good for 75 years.  It's not expensive.

The second thing to do which is the easiest is to put the following statement in an inconspicuous place on the photo:  "Photo courtesy of _______________".  Add your name.  If it's a relative,  add your relationship to the person. Its good to put the photo date if known for future researchers.
Not so.
Images I create, or photographs I take remain mine, no matter how often they appear online.  Images/photographs can be entered as public domain by the creator of the image so designating.  The creator can also choose to go with a Creative Commons (or similar) license.

Photographs found on sites such as BillionGraves or Find a Grave remain the (copyright) property of the person who TOOK the image, not necessarily always the same person who uploads it.
Once a copyright free image is published to the web it becomes part of the public domain.  This means that a user can utilize the image as they see fit.  Attribution or payment to the original content creator is not necessary.  After publishing  an uncopyrighted material to the web anyone can  copyright it.  Now web sites state at a picture that "the image may be copyright material ".  Public Domain opens your material for anyone to use freely if it wasn't copyrighted before posting it.  There are "Domain Free" publications and sites for anyone to use without danger of being sued.  If you want to retain ownership of your items, I recommend that you copyright them so you'll have a legal document of proof from the Library of Congress otherwise a magazine, card, calendar company, souvenir company making cups, plaques, etc.  as well as fabric companies and any number of companies that use images can syndicate them using them on whatever they choose.  If that happens, you'll lose royalties that you might otherwise have been entitled to.

 China has been stealing designer crafts and photos for years.  When I had my website, I would check the viewer stats report quite often.  Chinese lookers would show up from time to time searching for a particular item.  

I have around 50 copyrighted how-to craft and decorative painting designs and instructions. If I sold one to a particular magazine, that magazine owned the rights to the design and instructions if stated in the contract.  In otherwords, they are purchasing the rights of ownership.   Therefore, I lost the ownership rights to that design and could no longer use it for anything. There were a few magazines that would purchase an unpublished design but would not retain the rights which I could not use or publish until six months after publication at which time the rights reverted back to me according to the contract.

I don't know the content of your images or how well you want  to retain ownership but t's your decision as to how important they are to you.
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Anyone have any opinions regarding BillionGraves vs. FindAGrave?
by Mark Williams G2G6 Pilot (877k points)
I find Find a Grave much easier to navigate and use.
I joined BG just to check it out, and so far I agree with you Tommy. It may have some advantages when it comes to using their app. I haven't downloaded that yet.
What I noticed, for a cemetery I'm familiar with, is that there were multiple entries for the same people on BG. Do they have any kind of checks on duplicates?  Also I found that someone had taken my cemetery photo from Wikitree and posted it on BG. They took it down when asked. It was easy to prove since Wikitree shows all the details regarding uploader, date, etc. with the photo.
I prefer Find A Grave but Billion Graves has an advantage when you want to see what headstones are nearby.  It works when you find a stone that says infant or baby to see who the parents might be.
BillionGraves has the superior premise and mechanism, but their site navigation hamstrings them. Also, Findagrave has a massive head-start, the resources of Ancestry.com, and the advantage of playing to people's impulses better than BG.
Agreed. Thought BG was difficult to navigate. FaG's connection to Ancestry is also a big benefit for them.

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