Can you help separate and source two different "Thomas Coleman" and their children by 5 wives?

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'''Thomas Coleman of Wethersfield, Connecticut and Hadley, Massachusetts''', born about 1598 in England (possibly Evesham, Worcestershire), and was buried at Hadley 1 Oct 1674.

He married (2nd as a widower of Unknown wife with four children), Frances Wells (born Albright) October 13, 1625 in All Saints, Alcester, Warwickshire, England. She was the widow Wells. There is a disputed marriage to Frances Wells (born Belcher) who is disputed to be actually Frances (Albright) Wells.

See [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coleman-405 Thomas Coleman] and [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Albright-320 Frances Albright] and [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Belcher-89 Frances Belcher] and [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coleman-4753 Thomas Coleman] and [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coleman-939 Thomas Coleman-939]

For sources see:

The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2013.) [http://www.americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image/?pageName=28&volumeId=11691&rId=235117552 ''The Widow Frances (Albright) Wells, wife of Thomas Coleman of Wethersfield and Hadley''], Vol 146, page 28-34,  by Douglas Richardson.

Free access to short version here [http://www.randmwaddell.net/tng/histories/Frances_Albright.htm "The Widow Frances (Albright) Wells" etc.]

Free access to [https://archive.org/stream/historyofhadleyi00judd#page/n81/mode/2up/search/Coleman History of Hadley - lot of Thomas Coleman etc]

See also [http://www.americanancestors.org/databases/american-genealogist-the/image/?volumeId=11864&pageName=227&rId=134757913 ''Widow Frances Wells and Hugh Wells of Wethersfield''], by Donald Lines Jacobus and W. Herbert Wood.   The American Genealogist. New Haven, CT: D. L. Jacobus, 1937-. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009 - .)

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'''Thomas Coleman of Newbury, Hampton and Nantucket''' was born about 1602, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England. He immigrated in 1635 on the ship ''James'' and settled first at [http://magenweb.org/Essex/Newbury/frstsetl.htm Newbury, Massachusetts], about 1659 at Hampton, Massachusetts and about 1663 at Nantucket Island, where he died by 1 Aug 1682.

He married 24 Nov 1623, Susan Rualines, and they had nine children.

children: Dorothy, Dorcas m. John Tillotson, Hannah, Thomas, Tobias m. Lydia Jackson, Benjamin, Joseph m. Ann Bunker, John m. Joanna Folger, Isaac.

Second, 16 July 1651 he married the widow Mary Johnson, who had children from her marriage to Edmund Johnson. Third, Thomas Coleman married Margery Fowler, widow of Christopher Osgood and Thomas Rowell. As widow of Thomas Coleman she married Thomas Osborne. The 2nd and 3rd marriages have no children listed for Thomas Coleman.

See [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coleman-405 Thomas Coleman-405]  and [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coleman-410 Thomas Coleman-410] and [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coleman-1290 Thomas Coleman-1290]

and the wives of Thomas Coleman of Nantucket:

[http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Johnson-27342 Mary Johnson-27342]

[http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Raulines-1 Susannah Raulines-1]

[http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fowler-194 Margery Fowler-194]

For sources See:

[http://www.americanancestors.org/databases/great-migration-immigrants-to-new-england-1634-1635-volume-ii-c-f/image/?pageName=157&volumeId=7373&rId=235157992 Thomas Coleman Great Migration database]

and other sources listed on profiles.

I am one of the persons who completed a merge of Thomas Coleman and his wives that should not have been done, and regret I didn't pay more attention to dates and locations. For the Profile Managers of the listed profiles, please join this collaboration to sort out the profiles.

1. We need to identify which profile would be best for Thomas of Hadley and which for Thomas of Nantuckett. Done 24 Aug by [[Athey-67|Darlene Athey]] Thanks Darlene

2. We need to get the children assigned to the correct fathers and mothers. Done 24 Aug by [[Athey-67|Darlene Athey]] thanks Darlene!

3. We need to get the sources assigned to the correct profiles. (April working on this 24 Aug)

4. Once the two Thomas Colemans are assigned their individual final profile ID#s, we need to merge the duplicates into those, because there are currently five profiles for Thomas. Coleman-405 is a mixture of both. Coleman-939 and Coleman-4753 are of Hadley. Coleman-410 and Coleman-1290 are of Nantucket. -410 and -1290 merged into -405 by [[Athey-67|Darlene Athey]]. Thanks Darlene April will work on the other Coleman merges.

5. Frances Albright wife of Coleman of Hadley is represented by two diverse profiles and we have the sources to determine her true identity, which should be discussed so they can merged. April will work on this.

UPDATE:

Thomas Wells-375 and "Hugh" Thomas Wells-123 are not necessarily the same person, and Frances Belcher and Frances Albright are not necessarily the same person. Now that the rest of the Thomas Coleman, and Frances Albright -  widow of Wells and wife of Coleman - it is beginning to look like two '''different''' families that were combined.

So my best recommendation at this time is to sort what belong to Thomas and Frances (Albright) Coleman into their family, and not try to make Frances Belcher and her husband Thomas Coleman into the same people. There is still a need for good sources on Frances Belcher and her husband.

 

 

 

WikiTree profile: Thomas Coleman
asked in Genealogy Help by April Dauenhauer G2G6 Pilot (107k points)
edited by April Dauenhauer

1 Answer

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Thomas Coleman of Nantucket is my 9th great-grandfather on my dad's side.  Heck, half of the families in Nantucket are my direct lines since they all intermarried!

I have three marriages for him:  Susannah Raulines on 24 Nov 1623; Mary (widow of Edward Johnson) on 11 Jul 1651; Margery Fowler (after 1663).

For his second marriage (Mary), I have a daughter Dorcas born 2 Jan 1654 (ref: http://www.colmancopywriting.com/assets/textfiles/Peter_Colman_Writing_Samples.pdf - 5 Jan 2011).

For his third marriage (Margery), I have a daughter Joanna (DOB unknown) (ref: Nantucket, A History, by R. A. Douglas-Lithgow, publ. 1914 by G.P. Putnam's Sons).

I have a total of ten children for him.

I've started by removing the children that are NOT the children of Thomas of Nantucket.  They are attached to Frances (Belcher) Wells so you can still find them...
answered by Darlene Athey-Hill G2G6 Pilot (268k points)
edited by Darlene Athey-Hill
O.K.  I've got Thomas Coleman of Nantucket (Coleman-405) cleaned up.  I merged Coleman-410 and Coleman-1290 into him, deleted the wrong spouse & children, merged the two Susannahs.  I added a few of his children, but not all.
Thank you for the sources for the children of the 2nd and 3rd marriages for Coleman of Nantucket, Darlene, and thanks for all the work on the profiles!! You've  untangled the confusion, and given me the notes to work on the rest. Million thanks!!

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