Request for birth/baptismal/ marriage record in Poulton, Wallasey, United Kingdom for this person?

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Any information regarding this profile will help alot.

She came to South Africa before 1883, as her child William were born and recorded here. Then she had another 3 children baptised in South Africa.

I assume she went bank to the UK after 1897 and were captured in the 1911 cencus with her last born Dorothy.

Many thanks
WikiTree profile: Helena Bryce Borthwick
in Genealogy Help by Susanna Hendrina Elisa de Bruyn G2G6 Mach 4 (42.2k points)

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Her Birth was registered in 1859 Helena Mary Augustus Kidd (GRO Index, Wirral 8a/390 q September).

In 1861 Helena was living with her grandparents George August Phillips  in West Derby, Lancashire. This is the entry.

George Augustus Philips    67
Jane Alphus Philips    60
Jane Emily Kidd    27
Edwin Albert Philips    24
John Denis Philips    22
Anthony Bernard Philips    18
Georgiania Augusta Philips    16
Lee Kidd    27
Norah Quin    16
Helena Augusta Kidd    2


Her specific birth date was 3 August 1859, Christened 2 August 1860, Liverpool, St. Peter, the daughter of Lee Kidd & Jane Emily( Phillips )((

In 1871, Helena was a pupil with a private tutor in Litherland, Lancashire.

Helena's marriage to John James Bryce is recorded in 1878 West Derby, Lancashire ( GRO Marriage index, West Derby, 8b/785 q September 1878) See


by R W G2G6 Pilot (259k points)
selected by Susanna Hendrina Elisa de Bruyn

Thank you so much Ron, you are a star.

 This family is confusing me. All the records in South Africa referring to John James as Bryce-Borthwick. 

Now is the question where the " Borthwick" come from!!!

Thanks again




+2 votes
Helena living in Formby, Lancashire, Duke Street, in 1881 Cenus. This is the entry:

Helena Bryce    21
Mary M. Bryce    1
Edith E. Bryce    
Margaret Moran    23

The image list both children as born in Formby, with Edith 2 months old. Margaret Moran was employed as a  domestic servent.
by R W G2G6 Pilot (259k points)

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