How is a "source" determined to be present?

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I find it incomprehensible as to how a "source" is determined to be present.  Look at Pavlukovich-3 and his brother Pavlukovich-5, both of which have identically worded "source" statements, but one is marked as needing a source while the other is not.

Help me understand what I am doing wrong.

Identify to me a validly "sourced" example that I can look at to see how it is supposed to be done and that I can look at in the edit mode and the public view mode so that I can see how the raw statement looks like as well as the resulting formatted statement.
WikiTree profile: Michael Pavlukovich
in Policy and Style by Ray Fisher G2G Crew (700 points)
edited by Ray Fisher
Whilst my full response to your question is answered below, I would say there appears to be no consistency on the categorisation of "unsourced" profiles!

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You're not doing anything wrong ...  A newly created profile will automatically know if you've added a source or not. If you didn't, it will add the template asking for editors to add sources. So if you add the source after you've created the profile... then we have to strip the template code. It's an added step, but simple to do. Just delete: {{Unsourced}}.

As for the footnote ... that's looks like an updated automated message. It use to be something else. When you're ready to remove it, just delete the <ref></ref> tags ... and everything in between them. Then, if needed, you can make your own ref tags that are appropriate for your sources.

 

Here's a quick video tutorial that shows how to use some of the most basic tags: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rKFiIJGNpY

by Unknown Unknown G2G6 Mach 2 (29.5k points)
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Give me a referance, that when I replicate the details it contains, I will provide the evidence  of that profile. That is a valid source.

Another way. If I were to say " Sid is the son of Bert & Daisy, written by son Fred"-- who says --  Fred.  Who is Fred?  Where can I find that "Sid is the son Bert & Daisy". Give me that & that's the source. Not Fred!   

Take a look at http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bartlett-4582. Not perfect, but in my view, is a measure of what is helpful to fellow researchers.
by R W G2G6 Pilot (259k points)
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Here is the simple process I follow.

If I were creating the profile for someone like Michael, I put in the basic information on them that I have (name, birth and death dates and locations, etc.) and then cut and paste the source information from Familysearch.com for one record for the person.  If I were creating the profile for Michael, I would probably use his Social Security Death Index entry:

 "United States Social Security Death Index," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J146-WYQ : accessed 9 September 2015), Michael Pavlukovich, 26 Nov 1994; citing U.S. Social Security Administration, Death Master File, database (Alexandria, Virginia: National Technical Information Service, ongoing).

Just by doing this, the profile will not be listed as unsourced.

If you don't enter anything in the source section when you create a new profile, the profile will be listed as an unsourced profile with the "This profile lacks source information..." box, etc.  You then have to edit the biography section of the profile and delete the text stating that it is unsourced - this will not be done automatically.

This happens to me sometimes when I create new profiles and forget to add a source when I first create the profile.  I then edit the biography to add information on sources and delete the text stating that the profile is unsourced.

Either way - depending on how many additional sources I have, I then go back and enter the additional source information. 

by Ray Jones G2G6 Pilot (153k points)

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