Was having a servant live with the family often the case in the 1800's?

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I just ran across another US Census for someone in my Scriven ancestry that lists a servant living with the family [Scriven-584]. I saw that happening often and understood why when people were farmers. The "help" must have lived under the same roof and earned their keep that way. But the one I just researched, William Scriven, was listed in the 1880 US Census as a carpenter [http://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-10129/1880-united-states-federal-census?s=204551041&itemId=74396577-&groupId=ed39cf03fa6a7ddcd204b4150ca21223&action=showRecord#household], who lived in rural New York, and was hardly someone who had a lot of disposable income for the luxury (at least it would be seen that way today) of having a "servant."

Did the idea of "servant" mean something different in those days? Was it a catch-all term the US Census used for people who exchanged their labor for  room and board? A live-in babysitter maybe?
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in The Tree House by Bob Scrivens G2G6 Mach 2 (21.4k points)

Since originally posting this question, I've done more reading on "domestic servants," both in the USA and UK. Far from being the exception, it seems like having servants was the rule. A number of sites say that for any but the poorest households to function, they needed at least one maid (called "a maid of all work") to help the woman of the house with duties from taking care of the children to food preparation. Many families had what would appear as reciprocal relationships with neighbors where their children were placed and worked for someone known to the family.

Here are some links for further information:

Domestic Service, the forgotten occupation [http://www.victorianweb.org/history/work/burnett3.html  ] says that, "Throughout the nineteenth century and until the First World War domestic service constituted the largest single employment for English women, and the second-largest employment for all English people, male and female. Yet it is a largely unknown occupation." 

Antebellum Cincinnati Domestic Servants [http://curiosity.cs.xu.edu/blogs/antebellumcincinnati/topics/domestic-servants/]  tells how, before large scale immigration, " many households would basically borrow children from neighboring households. If a family didn’t have any female children of their own they would take in young females from neighboring households who would help take care of the home. (309) When immigrants began coming to America in large waves they filled the void and domestic servants became popular in rich and middle class households."

Maids in America: the decline of domestic help [http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/decline-domestic-help-maid/406798/] begins "For centuries, a woman’s social status was clear-cut: either she had a maid or she was one. Servants—often live-ins—who did the bulk of the cooking, laundry, and childcare were an indispensable part of life for virtually everyone who wasn’t a domestic worker him or herself."

Domestic Servants – Part 1 – Women [https://lifetakeslemons.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/domestic-servants-part-1-women/] says "Their number was a symbol of social standing with the aristocracy employing as many as fifty while those of the middle class might employ three or four, or as was often the case, only one, most likely a maid of all work. . .. To launder, sew, empty chamber pots, dust, haul water for baths, light fires, and shop–all these duties fell within the realm of women’s work."

Tomorrow: Living Life as a 19th Century Servant [http://www.fourpoundsflour.com/tomorrow-living-life-as-a-19th-century-servant/] says that "In England and America in the 19th century, housework was incredibly laborious.  If you could afford it, you got a servant."

The Rights, Duties, and Relations of Domestic Servants, Their Masters [https://books.google.com/books?id=I7gDAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=%22domestic+servants%22&source=bl&ots=u7_wk1JY7H&sig=GcRzbfeG3sMXU6i8M_4uI7tmD7s&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwilvoGJgMLQAhUl1oMKHXBIB7E4ChDoAQhfMAc#v=onepage&q=%22domestic%20servants%22&f=false] begins by saying " is an e-book that details rules for hiring, taking care of, and firing domestics. Workers were paid quarterly, and if the quality of their work was in question, there were rules favoring the employer which made partial or non-payment of domestics possible.

"The Biddies" -- Irish Domestic Servants in Early America [https://www.americanhistoryusa.com/biddy-irish-domestic-servants-in-early-america/] tells how "These women cooked meals, cleaned house, cared for the children, made the beds, and other tasks of that nature. Many of them came as indentured servants . . . -- meaning that they worked for room and board to pay for their passage to the United States. After a no-frills journey, they would begin a labor term of four to seven years. During this period they were treated the same as slaves -- they could be tracked down by bounty hunters if they fled. . . .  Until mid-century, debtor's prisons were common and anyone deemed not to fulfill their end of the agreement could be thrown into one. Women were also vulnerable to sexual assault, since they had almost no legal recourse to pursue claims."

 

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Those big houses were hard to keep up. Saying that, I have read where when parents died it was not unusual for the children to be taken in as indentured servants for a certain amount of years to pay for their up keep. Then they were freed. I also think that new immigrants would become a servant to get on their feet when coming to America. I have heard of seamstress's going from house to house until they had the clothing sewn in that house and then move on. If you want a good idea about housekeeping in the 1800's check out books on Husbandry at Archives.com. The book I read even had recipes for insecticides.
by Pam Hawn G2G6 (8.8k points)
Thanks, Pam. When you talked about helping immigrants "get on their feet," I was thinking how much times have changed. (I just listened to another Republican Party debate, and I looked up the origin of the word, "wetback.")
I agree on the Thought.What really surprised me was how reading early American History nothing has really changed. There are always people who what to make money off of someone else's back..some that want to help and pull up everyone else they can and some who only care about themselves. :).
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I see it all the time in censuses. While usually it indicates a certain level of economic status. I don't think it would be unusual for a carpenter to have an apprentice or assistant who would live in the house, and be designated servant. Or in the case of a woman servant, she might be a nursemaid, or cook, or whatever. I would guess that Jennie is a mother's helper of some kind. Lots of farmers, have an odd man listed in their household, their occupations are usually listed as farm laborer, maybe they are listed as boarders though instead of servants. I've also seen, that sometimes people you know are related, like cousins, are living with their relatives and get listed as servants, because they are trading their services for room and board.
by Anne B G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
Plus there probably isn't a designation for ...homeless creature the family felt sorry for so they were letting him sleep under the stairwell with the brooms and occasionally fed him leftovers and scraps...maybe even for the chance of the occasional odd job.  :D
I also see this very often on census records. One 1880 census record I ran across recently showed that a young daughter (age 11 or 12) of one family was living as a "servant" in the household of a neighboring family, while her older and younger siblings were still living in her own parents' home. I believe she was listed as attending school. I imagine that this was an arrangement that relieved crowding in her own family's household, while "helping out" in the home where she was a "servant."

All of the contributions on the 19th c. American "servant" class were pretty interesting. It certainly didn't mean in the 1800's what it would mean today.

It would be nice if somebody put together a free space page on this. (I don't feel qualified.) Especially since the servants turn up on so many censuses.

I found one source that said the following: "In England and America in the 19th century, housework was incredibly laborious.  If you could afford it, you got a servant.  A household with just one servant had what was called a “Maid-of-all-Work,” a lone woman that was responsible for all the cooking, cleaning, and general maintenance of the members of the household.  If you had more money, you could get a cook, a housemaid, a lady’s maid, a butler, and a valet." [http://www.fourpoundsflour.com/tomorrow-living-life-as-a-19th-century-servant/]

Also found an excellent article on domestics in England that seemed relevant [https://lifetakeslemons.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/domestic-servants-part-1-women/]: "To launder, sew, empty chamber pots, dust, haul water for baths, light fires, and shop–all these duties fell within the realm of women’s work.  Although household positions came with wages, the domestic burden lay upon the female.  Girls, often aged 13-14 years old, sometimes as young as eleven, were employed as the lowest order of servants: maids.  A high turnover rate existed due to innumberable grievances and disputes between domestics and masters, but women could expect to continue working until marriage, typically around the age of 24 or later."

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I was very surprised some of my family members had servants, but I have a few families where I could make sense of it.  In an earlier census they had slaves, but after emancipation they had servants. Also some elderly people had a servant or farmworker - either a husband and wife were too infirm to take care of themselves. And some turned out to be daughters in law who came back to live with parents in law after death of son/husband. So they don't share the same last name and it is only when you look at earlier censuses you can put those facts together.
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