Will you help demonstrate the power of WikiTree to make DNA Breakthroughs?

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Through the guidance of Peter Roberts, I am embarking on connecting two separate lines of Culp surnames through the use of WikiTree and DNA testing.

YOU CAN HELP

My Culp line ends with Baltzer Culp . We do not know anything beyond his likely birth location.  However, there has been anecdotal evidence of relatives from Pennsylvania who visited him in Ohio.  Recent DNA testing has suggested a connection to Dielman Kolb.  

I am attempting to gather Culp DNA testers and bring them to WikiTree to use our DNA tools to help find that connection.

Currently, the two lines do not connect, primarily because of the lack of info regarding Baltzer.  He has been well researched for many decades.  Through DNA, we may be able to find his relatives in Germany and hopefully from there work back to Baltzer.  New information will be learned in any event.

How you can help.

More work is needed to be done on the descendants of Dielman Kolb lines, primarily because we need DNA testers in this line.  I have DNA testers from the Baltzer Culp line that I am bringing to WikiTree.  However, any new folks from Dielman's line may not fully commit to WikiTree.  If we can complete more of these lines, it will make connecting them to WikiTree much easier and assist greatly with the DNA Tools.

I have one who descends from Barbara Culp and she will be learning about this connection as well. Her grandfather was a McKinny raised as a Miller.  Barbara married a McKinny in this line.

If we can make the Culp lines connect on WikiTree, I am planning on writing a blog post about the experience and the process we used.

I would very much appreciate your help in developing these lines further and helping those who join understand how to use WikiTree and the DNA tools we have.

It is all very exciting!

So, Will you Help?

WikiTree profile: Dielman Kolb
in Genealogy Help by Michael Stills G2G6 Pilot (523k points)
Sounds like a great project, Michael!
Hello Michael,

The primary task is to identify the Culp descendants who have been DNA tested and who are willing to have their ancestry in WikiTree along with their GEDmatch IDs (or YSearch IDs for males with the Culp surname).  If necessary, the tester can be listed "A. Culp" or "Anonymous Stills", etc., as the case may be.  Then you can use auDNA, X-DNA, and Y-DNA to the best advantage.

If you find male Culps who are a Y haplotype (Y-STR) match but there is no genealogy to connect them, then you should use the "Y-DNA Haplotypes" category system to make the connection in WikiTree.  See for example:

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Roberts_Y-STR_Group_1

 

Sincerely, Peter
Thanks Peter.  I have reached out to one so far and am waiting for a response.  I thought I would see if I can find Dielman Kulp descendants of GEDmatch.  I have not do this before so if you have a methodology let me know.  I am also going to see if I can find anyone on Ancestry and FTDNA. I am not on 23 and me.

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I'm JUST a mother  i dont  count!
by Carole Taylor G2G6 Mach 7 (73.5k points)
Carole, I do not understand your comment?
I answered your question about DNA.... can you tell I am disappointed that my dna test did not tell me anything of the past...
Hello Anonymous,  Are you willing to share your results?

http://www.wikitree.com/blog/why-ysearch-matters/

Hi Carole, I see you have an mtDNA test.  As you know, the mtDNA is passed from a mother to her daughters for millennia in a relatively unchanged state.  This test is good for determining your ancient maternal genetic origins such as what geographical area of the world your earliest foremother was from several thousand years ago.

Unfortunately, the mtDNA test is more difficult to use for finding maternal line cousins because depending on the culture, each generation of mothers has a different surname.  I would guess that a lot of us lose track of our foremothers surnames in the 1800s as with your foremother http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-281637. Other DNA tests are more useful for genetic genealogy, IMHO, but this is way off topic.  I just wanted to say that I am sorry your mtDNA test wasn't more helpful for your research.  If you would like more information, please see our DNA project page. http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:DNA#Choosing_a_test

Peter has more success with mtDNA results than I do, I think.  Perhaps he can help your research.  Again, sorry to go off topic.  

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I checked into the profiles and you lack sources

Barbara Culp 1733-1790 no sources
Hans Casper Colp 1692-1770 after deleting a lot of import comments I found a link to something at Ancestry that could be a source..

Advice/Questions:
1) What part of your family tree at Wikitree has proper sourcing
2) Please clean up your profiles if you ask other people to look into them. Just now its just frustrating with links to webpages with no sources
3) Add a research notes section so other people understand 
3a) what you have done on the profile
and
3b) what you plan to do

If you have now sources mark the profile {{Unsourced}}

If you have guessed a birth date (lack of sources) add {{DateGuess}}

if you have a date of birth but no source to prove it add {{Citation Needed}}
 

by Living Sälgö G2G6 Pilot (295k points)
Thanks, Magnus,

As you point out, these profiles need help, this is precisely why t I am asking help.  Most of these profiles are not mine, but I am working on getting them in shape.  Thus, I reached out and asked if any in the community can help.  Additionally, as I am trying to bring in new WikiTree members who are descendants of these profiles, they will need help getting their profiles in shape as well.

Problem is when no one has done a proper work and spent some hours cleaning the profiles then when you jump directly on a profile and see no sources etc. what can you trust??!!?

I am not a big fan of people uploading unsourced gedcoms... I think that will kill wikitree. It takes 10 minutes to upload 2000 profiles but it takes at least 2000 * 10 minutes to add one or 2 sources = 330 hours to make it decent....

Back to my question
1) What part of your family tree at Wikitree has proper sourcing?? Where to start??

Perhaps the best place to start is with Dielman Kolb.  It is the line I wish to find persons to connect with on WikiTree with DNA.

The following site is a good place to start.  I have already seen that there may be a problem with the connection of Hans Casper to Dielman from information on this page.

Kolb-Kulp-Culp Family Association

With this information, I am not clear if the DNA hits are to Hans Casper line, Dielman's line or both.  But it appears to be Hans Caspers line in at least one instance.  Which means, with proper sourcing, we need to disconnect them on WikiTree.


This is my line.  Baltzer Culp

This is the only line I have spent a lot of time working on.  But with this project I will be moving to the other lines that I know lead to DNA testers from a Facebook Group I started for Baltzer Culp.  I still have more work to do on this line regarding source citations, but the majority of the sources are there.

 

 

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