How do I make certain a profile may possibly be a family member of mine?

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While searching Wiki Tree for family members that may already be created, I found quite a few possibilities! In fact I'm rather confused! First of all, the names of my family members are the same except for the suffix Sr., Jr., and III.

The profiles I looked at have very little information or documentation. The birth and death years are close to what I have. Some have a lot of unknowns. In fact many are ged.com imports that appear to only have been imported and left alone.

I understand the policy is to merge profiles into the lowest number. I may be be in luck here, one is orphaned and I will adopt it.  I can and will send messages to the profile managers before I take any action to edit or merge a profile.

The problem for me is one of the profiles has five possibilities, and I am fairly new to Wiki Tree. Before I do anything I would really value a more experienced members opinion and suggestions. Thanks in advance for any input.  

The profiles in question are descended from a Huguenot  

Nancy (Thibodeau) Landers
in Policy and Style by Nancy Landers G2G6 (9.9k points)

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Nancy,

First you are taking the right step - moving very slowly at first.  Yes, there are still many old duplicates with little or no information and they can be a challenge or a headache.  It takes time to learn the system - it seems best to start with your own profile, make sure that privacy is set so that your family tree can be seen - add your parents and grandparents making sure you learn the proper method of adding sources - then slowly start moving back - making sure that each profile is sourced.  Plan to take at least 2 to 3 months to really get it.  

For many of the early profiles - yes they may be duplicates but they may be cousins or who knows and until you have added sources you really can not tell.
by Philip Smith G2G6 Pilot (273k points)
selected by Doug Lockwood
Thanks for such a quick response Philip. The next step will be to add the person with the five possible profiles. So I'm thinking that if I were to investigating, and researching those profiles now I could at the very least get the ball rolling.

I'm not in a big hurry and I think it could take some time for responses from profile managers. Just sending message to each one will take some time.

Thank you for the reassurance that I'm on the right track, and confirming that some may not be duplicates. After, or if I get responses from messages to determine if some are duplicates should I post another question or seek the help of a mentor?

This whole Wiki Tree and genealogy hobby can really be a huge undertaking. I am grateful to be a part of it. It is so awesome to have people who are genuine and sincere about genealogy.  Thanks again Philip.
Nancy,

I'm not sure I understand you note "add the person with the five possible profiles" - if you have sources and what exists seems correct - then add your sources to the profile - develop the profile and when it is clear it is a duplicate - propose the merge.  My point is that you not create a new profile when there is an existing one that seems correct.  This all works if the profile is open - if not you need to be added to the trusted list first. So you will need to make a request.
Hi Philip,

What I meant was the next person to add in my line is the person with the five existing profiles. When I discovered how many choices I had, I wasn't sure what to do. My first thought was merge first then add to the legitimate profile. Sourcing first, and merging second sounds like the best recipe for success. It sure seems a lot easier that way. Thanks Philip for clearing this up for me. I learned something new without having to make a mess of things!  Thanks again.
I have just learnt to look for the date that the original message was posted.

My apologies for wasting everyone's time and WikiTree memory
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There is a lot of misinformation out there. And  100 people will pick it up, so I think people assume it’s gospel.  Verify everything.
by Charissa Marshall G2G Rookie (260 points)
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Regarding Sr., Jr., III ... For most of history, "Sr/Jr" or equivalent did NOT have the current meaning of father/son. It was simply the notation which town clerks used in their records when there were two people, possibly unrelated, in town with the same name. When the older one died or moved, then the younger one would no longer need that notation. So those notations are relative and are NOT part of the name (except for the rare case when it is written into the birth certificate). On the other hand, "I", "II", "III" etc are typically used by the family to deliberately mark a lineage, although they may or may not indicate direct father/son connections. Furthermore, they are sometimes applied carelessly or in competition with another branch of the family. So, in both cases, don't get hung up on differences in the suffixes that appear in records.
by Jim Moore G2G6 Mach 1 (11.0k points)

Jim, do you have any sources that show examples of that and a general scope? Is this a case of 

  1. "it is generally accepted that Sr., Jr., Pliny the Elder has no indication of lineage because XXX writes in YYY that <argument>", 
  2. or is it a case of "in my experience, Pliny the Elder was not the father of Pliny the Younger because Source1 says thus and Source2 says thus...." 
  3. or is it merely "I don't put a lot of stock in this, because Uncle Jeremiah had someone in his town with the same name"?
Here's one source who explains it more fully than I have: https://genfiles.com/articles/senior-junior/

If you use old New England town records, you can find numerous examples.
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I'm not sure it would help you in this case, but this has happened to me also. One thing I do sometimes when a lineage is in question, i.e. when I don't know which existing profile may represent an ancestor, or when there are two or more competing candidates, I open a section on the connecting profile titled, "Research Notes." Then, I enter the arguments (if known) for and against the candidates. This is intended to summarize what you know about it, and what is possible and what is not possible. Then, if someone else with additional knowledge reads the profile, the he or she can see what you have considered and perhaps resolve the question or offer additional evidence. The importance of reliable sources cannot be emphasized strongly enough.
Huguenots have a most interesting history. My maternal line consists of Huguenot ancestors and their descendants.
by Marion Ceruti G2G6 Mach 7 (71.4k points)

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