Looking for any information on brothers Ernest W, Stanley B and Charles E Orme,

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These are the sons of John Orme born about 1858 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England, and Catherine Annie Orme (nee Blythe) born in Dublin, Ireland in 1860.  I have them on the 1891 England census and wonder if there are any other traces of them.
in Genealogy Help by Anonymous Lynch G2G2 (2.0k points)

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Hi Carmel,

I would expect to be able to find them in the birth, marriage & death records at www.freebmd.org.uk, and also in the 1881, 1901 and 1911 censuses. It would help to know where they were born. I tried to find them in the 1891 census, but no luck. How did you find them?

John
by John Elkin G2G6 Mach 7 (77.3k points)

That is an interesting family. One husband and two wives.

Jessie A Orme

 in the 1891 England Census

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Name: Jessie A Orme
[Jessie A Harris
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Orme
Gender: Female
Where born: St Andrews; Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
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Piece: 1314
Folio: 98
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
John Orme 32
Catherine A Orme 31
Eileen F Orme 5
William A Orme 2
Jessie A Orme 39
George F Orme 7
Ernest W Orme 6
Frances A Orme 5
Charlotte E Orme 4
Stanley B Orme 3
Charles E Orme 1
Minnie A Bye 24
She is listed as Jessie Harris and wife of John Orme. Children under her name are written as do (ditto) for last name so George through Charles would have Harris for a last name?

 

Betty

Jessie Harris isn't shown as the wife of John Orme - there's a double slash indicating a change of household - and also the house number changes from 3 to 5, so she is the next door neighbour. As she isn't listed as head of household that suggests that her husband wasn't at home that night - probably he was at work.

Findmypast.com has transcribed John & Catherine's family as Orine...

John Orine 1859 Cheshire West Ham West Ham Essex  
Catherine A Orine 1860 Dublin West Ham West Ham Essex  
Eileen F Orine 1886 Essex West Ham West Ham Essex  
William A Orine 1889 Essex West Ham West Ham Essex

 

and Jessie Harris's family as...

Jessie A Harris 1852 Devon West Ham West Ham Essex  
George F Harris 1884 Middlesex West Ham West Ham Essex  
Ernest W Harris 1885 Middlesex West Ham West Ham Essex  
Frances A Harris 1886 Middlesex West Ham West Ham Essex  
Charlotte E Harris 1887 Middlesex West Ham West Ham Essex  
Stanley B Harris 1888 Middlesex West Ham West Ham Essex  
Charles E Harris 1890 Middlesex West Ham West Ham Essex
In the above record under Spouse's Name it lists John Orme.
That record is just a transcription. In this case the transcriber missed the change of household. The original record is the census form shown in the image. (Well actually that's not the original record, it's a fair copy made by the enumerator from his notes).

In the 1901 census (RG13/1625 f32 p55), the Orme family is...

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

43, Stafford Road, Walthamstow, West Ham, Essex, England

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Household Members

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place  
John Orme Head Widower Male 42 1859 Electric Engineer Chester, Cheshire, England

Transcription

Pauleen F Orme Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Stratford, Essex, England

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William A Orme Son Single Male 12 1889 - Stratford, Essex, England

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Syril J Orme Son Single Male 5 1896 - Stratford, Essex, England

FreeBMD has the following births:

Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page 

Births Mar 1886   (>99%)
HARRIS  Ernest Wilfred    Brentford  3a 148  image Scan available - click to view
 
Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page 

Births Dec 1887   (>99%)
Harris  Stanley Baxter    Brentford  3a 107  image Scan available - click to view
 
Births Jun 1889   (>99%)
Harris  Charles Edwin    Brentford  3a 121  image Scan available - click to view

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