"The Great Migration Begins, 1620-1635"... reliable source?

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Hi! I don't work much with New England, and I had not heard of this source. Is it reliable? And what does DTR stand for? I could not find John Holand/Holland m Judith Stephens in an online search of Douglas Richardson's ''Magna Carta Ancestry'' or among the passengers listed by the Winthrop Society. He is apparently listed in the American Ancestors' database, but I cannot see the records associated with the search results. His profile does not have the PGM project box. Should it? The Magna Carta project has a new member who would like to establish a trail from his a gateway ancestor, but I have not found that he is included in Richardson's works, so I've added him to the Questionable Gateway Ancestors category.

WikiTree profile: John Holland
in Genealogy Help by Liz Shifflett G2G6 Pilot (402k points)
so... Holland-715 has an image of a page from the reference, but does not note the author. I just saw this G2G discussion - http://www.wikitree.com/g2g/11019/should-all-entries-in-the-great-migration-begins-be-so-noted - and I think this is one of the "Great Migration series" by Robert Charles Anderson, which is the primary reference for the PGM project. Did I follow the discussion correctly to attribute this title to Anderson? The profile page has a link to Ancestry. What would the correct reference be? Thanks!!
This is a copyrighted source, so we shouldn't be posting pages from it on WikiTree profiles.
Thanks! I removed the image from the profile, which I think should get the image deleted from WikiTree servers within 30 days or so. Do you know if there's a better way to remove it?

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The Great Migration book series (also available online through NEHGS; most volumes are also on Ancestry.com) is treated pretty much as the gold standard by the Puritan Great Migration project. Robert Charles Anderson is the principal author.

The first three volumes, covering 1620 to 1633, are titled "The Great Migration Begins." The next seven volumes (1634-1635) have the title "The Great Migration".
by Ellen Smith G2G Astronaut (1.1m points)
selected by Bettye Carroll
+11 votes

To Confirm:

Ancestry's database is called New England, The Great Migration and The Great Migration Begins, 1620-1635 . It's data and images are Anderson's

Ancestry.com. New England, The Great Migration and The Great Migration Begins, 1620-1635 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.

Original data: Anderson, Robert Charles. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-1633, Volumes 1-3; The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volumes 1-6. Boston: New England Historical and Genealogical Society, 1996-2011.

by Anne B G2G Astronaut (1.1m points)
Thanks so much!
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Had a poke around in his ancestry, and Thurstan [[Holland-2881]] seems to have the wrong father.

by RJ Horace G2G6 Pilot (562k points)

Thanks RJ. Going through Lewis, I hit a snag on Thurstan's son Richard (not shown by Lewis, citing Plantagenet Ancestry).

I think Lewis only cites PA for what he takes from the Lawrence Warren = Margaret Bulkeley paragraph, which says in passing that they had a daughter Margaret Warren, wife of Thurstan Holland.

So far as I can figure out, that paragraph was in the 2004/5 books, disappeared in the 2010/11 books but may be back in RA 2013.

But Richardson doesn't go into the children of Thurstan Holland because he's following a different line.

Beyond that, the Ortnaca item is unsourced and incomplete
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Anyone know about this source?:

The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants

by Gary Boyd Roberts

by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)
Yes, he gathered together a bunch of lineages from secondary sources and set to puree --- he reheats it every couple of years to take out the proven bloopers.and add in hopeful new lineages.  Goes down easy, but there might be occasional digestion problems.
I upvoted your reply just because I love the metaphor!
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In regards to your question about "DTR", It is the "Fourth Report of the Record Commissioners of the City of Boston. 1880. Dorchester Town Records (Boston 1883)"

Someday(?), I am going to look for all the sources used by GMB and create free-space pages for them. I already created a free-space page (with a link for "What Links Here") for the GMB source. There you will find a link to the document that describes all the sources used by the GMB (see "Key To Titles"), including the DTR.

by Rick Pierpont G2G6 Pilot (111k points)
Thanks! I don't think I could have ever figured that one out on my own!

I think each author invents their own method for source citations! 

I am using a source about the "Flanders" families. The author has created a "list of lists". First he has a list of source types. Each source type is labeled A-Z. Each source type contains a list of sources, labeled 1-100+. Therefore, a source citation is shown as C:35, M:45 or D:22, etc. Very cryptic, but I do appreciate his thoroughness in source citations.

I'm a firm believer in collaborating on sources, for helping each other with exactly the type of questions you are asking.

reminds me of some of the source citations Bartrum uses... but I haven't found the key for his notations yet!

There is a cheat  sheet to decipher Anderson's abbreviations. I'm not somewhere where I can easily find it but you should be able to google it and find it. PGM should point to it from their project page but I don't think we do ... Yet.

Jillaine, The "cheat sheet" is called the "Key to Titles", it is in the source free space page, at the link above, and it his now here: https://www.greatmigration.org/GMKeyToTitles.pdf

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