Dolar Davis PGM - Remove parents; remove son Nicholas

Question

• Davis-17038 
• Davis-24874 
• PPP Davis-187

Final merge of PPP Davis-187.

At some point someone added parents Ichabod Davis and Susanna Kirby to one of the many times merged profiles.  I find no evidence of his parents, and believe they should be removed, unless someone has a valid source.

He also has attached a son named Nicholas.  There has been controversy over this child, as they lived on adjacent properties, but no proof has been found that this is his son, or what relationship existed.  Nicholas was living at the time of Dolar's will, but not mentioned in it.  I believe he should also be detached.

Any thoughts?

 

Comments

I agree with you on this Chris, the parents and Nicholas should all be disconnected with appropriate notes on the profiles. Thanks for asking.

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Follow-up:  PPP profile also has brothers Nicholas and Robert Davis.

Anyone have any evidence of these relationships?  Chris

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I assumed the siblings would go away with the parents

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Chris, did you see the post just below this in Related Questions

http://www.wikitree.com/g2g/57182/verify-nicholas-as-son-of-dolor-davis

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Yes Anne, I have seen it, thanks.  It appears the link to a son Nicholas is all from Amos Otis' work on Barnstable families and has been disputed.  There is a brief discussion of this the the GM series, disputing and 'real' connection.

I guess I need my coffee this a.m. !!!  The brothers would go away!  Or maybe it's just the depressing first snow outside that's gotten my mind elsewhere.

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Ours isn't exactly snow. It's sleet, but it looks messy. And a tree must have come down just up the road, because I can see the town truck through the trees and hear the chain saws.

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It was snow, then sleet, now I think it's just turning to light rain.  Just as long as we don't get last years 9 feet in Feb.

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Related topic discussion on unsourced Ichabod Davis profile here: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1209655/what-to-do-with-this-profile?show=1209706#c1209706

Answer 1

Chris,

To address your question regarding the the relationship of Dolor and Nicholas Davis:

I see that some people on Wiki have found the "Nicholas son of Dolor Davies baptised" in Bexhill, Sussex, England in 1629, which I had discovered in June, 2021.  

I had to pay the East Sussex Record Office ("ESRO") to obtain this baptism record and the records of his children John, Mary I and Mary II.

I had to get ESRO's express permission to publish Nicholas' original handwritten parish record image. To date, I have not been able to find any English or American documents proving that he migrated to America.

My 8th great-grandfather, Quaker Nicholas Davis, lived in Barnstable, MA from 1650 to 1670, and in Newport, RI from 1671 to 1762. There is absolutely no documented evidence that "my" Nicholas or his family had any interaction with Dolor or Dolor's children even though they lived near each other in Barnstable.

I do know that I am related to Dolor through DNA testing. Descendants of Dolor and I share a common ancestor who would have been Dolor's parents, grandparents, or his great grandparents. My current working theory is that "my" Nicholas was Dolor's cousin.

In conclusion, although Dolor Davis had a son, Nicholas Davis, in Bexhill, England in 1629, no further documents have been found to prove his existence in America or to show that he had any children.

The parentage of "my" Nicholas Davis, of Barnstable and Newport is unknown, but he and Sarah (Ewer) Blossom Davis did have the following children, all born in Barnstable, between 1650 and 1670: Samuel, Simon (my 7th great-grandfather), Hannah, Sarah, Thomas, and Mercy Davis.

I just completed 25 years of researching both Dolor and "my" Nicholas Davis, and have published these results. If you or anyone have further questions, please contact me at: rootsquestpress@yahoo.com.

Kind regards,

Dr. Frank "Mike" Davis

PS. All of the documents that I discovered regarding Dolor's family in England between 1614 and 1634 show that his given name was always spelled "Dolor".

Comments

Thanks, Mike. I'm sorry that the titles of your recent works keep getting deleted from G2G.

So... I'm curious why you abandoned the premise that the 1628 baptism was not that of "your" Nicholas Davis?

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P.S. you wrote:

"I had to pay the East Sussex Record Office ("ESRO") to obtain this baptism record and the records of his children John, Mary I and Mary II."

Do you want us to take down from WikiTree the image that was added by  Dee Christophel D'Errico? She'd been asked if she had your permission to upload it, but she never answered.

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Thank you for your diligent work, Jillaine.

The ESRO gave me express permission to publish the handwritten images of Nicholas Davies (Davis).

Should anyone else desire to post it on Wiki or elsewhere, they need to contact the ESRO for express permission to avoid copyright violation.

So, it needs to be taken down.

Regards,

Dr. Frank "Mike" Davis

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I see that the PGM team has acted and the image has been pulled down.