Do you know a sufficiently documented ancestral line back to 1500's?

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Please point to one or more ancestries in WikiTree which are properly sourced and documented for a parent child relationship every generation back to the 1500s.  I not sure even any of the royal lines in WikiTree cite where the source documentation can be verified.

Thanks and sincerely, Peter
asked in The Tree House by Peter Roberts G2G6 Pilot (429k points)
edited by Peter Roberts
For these really nice examples, I sincerely hope you all will change your "certainty status" from uncertain to confident (if you have a sufficient citation for that parent child relationship).

Thanks.

9 Answers

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Have you checked through any of the Magna Carta Gateway Ancestor trails?
answered by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
Thanks Doug,

I'm referring to a line that is easy for us to see. I'm not sure how to go from a living person whose line is sufficiently documented back to a Magna Carta trail.  For an example of easy to see, here is an undocumented line back to the 1400s:

http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1_name=Bromley-48&person2_name=Roberts-7085
There must be some on Wikitree, because some of the well documented Magna Carta lines begin in the 18th century. I'll try to find a few. (off the top of my head, some of the US presidential lines should be well documented to Magna Carta ancestry...George Bush comes to mind).
+5 votes
Can't say I've ever heard of a British royal baptism ever being in a parish register.  After a birth they post a notice on an easel outside the Palace and then it's a matter of public knowledge.  Maybe the notices are kept.

Rumour has it that the Home Secretary has to attend the birth.  This is a precaution against tales about babies being switched in warming pans.
answered by RJ Horace G2G6 Pilot (393k points)

The registers of St Georges Windsor until recently are in the archives." The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St George‚Äôs Chapel, Windsor (Windsor, 1957).  The original registers, which commence in 1609, are held
in the Archives and Chapter Library (SGC R.1-2, 4-7), with those still in use remaining in the custody of the Chapter Clerk. The archives are open to researchers .http://www.stgeorges-windsor.org/archives/user_services.html

Westminster Abbey Bishops transcripts for  marriages up to 1866 are in the Westminster City Archives and some are online. (and of course post 1841 the relevant censuses contain the Royal family if they are in the UK at the time)

I found an odd one today though and I really don't know what to do with.(hence mentioning it here)  A record of the baptism of this member of Russian royalty ( and also records her mothers death) http://www.geni.com/people/Elisaveta-Ivanovna-Princess-Bariatinsky/6000000017959589642The baptism took place in Denmark but was performed by a Northamptonshire vicar who recorded the event in his parish register back in Badby

+5 votes

Technically I think this line should count because we know that Carl's father's name was Bengt. http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1_name=Bengtsson-674&person2_name=Quackenbush-118 But his birth is pre-record.

answered by Carrie Quackenbush G2G6 Mach 7 (72.5k points)
Thanks for the easy link!
+5 votes
You can take a look at my tree, and from my profile through the Waddilove /Paley line to Thomas Paley born around 1540.
answered by R W G2G6 Pilot (256k points)
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Peter check this line back to me Sobieski-10

1. Doug is the son of Joan Caroline (Turse) Lockwood DNA confirmed 
2. Joan is the daughter of Ellsworth James Turse DNA confirmed 
3. Ellsworth is the son of Sanford Alexander Turse DNA confirmed 
4. Sanford is the son of Aaron A Turse DNA confirmed 
5. Aaron is the son of Aaron Turse DNA confirmed 
6. Arie is the son of Jannetje Zabriskie DNA confirmed 
7. Jannetje is the daughter of Garret A Zabriskie DNA confirmed 
8. Garret is the son of Albert H Zabriskie DNA confirmed 
9. Albert is the son of Hendrick Albertse Zabriskie DNA confirmed 
10. Hendrick is the son of Albrecht J (Sobieski) Zabriskie [confident] 
11. Albrecht is the son of Jakob Jakub Sobieski [confident] 
12. James is the son of Marek Sobieski [confident] 

answered by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
edited by Doug Lockwood
I have a documented family line going back to 1630's in France but they were not royalty nor any nobility. Just farmers gathered from parish records. Same with many of my Slovakia/Hungarian and a couple German lines. Plus, one Polish line to a noble soldier.
+2 votes

Aernout van Buchel, famed Dutch antiquarian, chronicled Joost Willems van Voorst and his descendants (and one or two generations of ancestors?). I believe my line to his is well documented though it can only be 99% proven thanks to the records of early Albany being destroyed. http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1_name=Van_Voorst-83&person2_name=Quackenbush-118

answered by Carrie Quackenbush G2G6 Mach 7 (72.5k points)
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On the English side I can trace back to Vincent Percevall who was christened in 1577.

1. Chris is the son of [private father] DNA confirmed
2. [Private] is the son of Richard Frank Hampson [confident]
3. Richard is the son of Alice (Cuckston) Hampson [confident]
4. Alice is the daughter of Thomas Cuckston [confident]
5. Thomas is the son of Thomas Percival Cuckston [confident]
6. Thomas is the son of Elizabeth (Percival) Cuckston [confident]
7. Elizabeth is the daughter of Thomas Percival [confident]
8. Thomas is the son of Richard Persival [confident]
9. Richard is the son of Thomas Percivall [confident]
10. Thomas is the son of Richard Persevell [confident]
11. Richard is the son of Richard Persiuell [confident]
12. Richard is the son of Vincent Percevall [confident]

This trail tells us that Vincent is the tenth great grandfather of Chris.

answered by Chris Hampson G2G6 Mach 8 (85.6k points)
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Barboteau, Barbot, Barbeau, Boisdore, Poitevin, Baraboo lines (2) .. back to mid 1500.  .. C'est Bon Magnifique .. Baraboo de Barbeau de Barbot de Barboteau de Barbu dit Boisdore et dit Poitevin et dit LaForest .. JSGB

( Confident ! ) ..
answered by Jerry Baraboo G2G6 Pilot (476k points)
+2 votes

Almost, Christopher Smith and Alice Gibbes were married May 1, 1616 and nine of their 10 children were baptized in the same church.

http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Smith-Descendants-27264  

answered by Kitty Smith G2G6 Pilot (454k points)

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