Parents of Gertrud Staël von Holstein?

Question

I am looking for the parents of Gertrud Staël von Holstein. Leo van de Pas has no info, and Gertrud is not mentioned on the family tree at the website of the Stael von Holstein family nor in the book by Fahne . On the other hand a Geneall page suggests that she is the daughter of Hildebrandt (himself on the family tree), but I do not have access to the sources and the dates are nearly impossible. Any idea on this? 

Answer 1

She is a bit of a mystery.  You may have already had a look but if you scroll right down to the bottom of the Stael von Holstein webpage it has this comment about Gertrud the daughter of Hildebrandt 1602 mit Körsen (Paixt) belehnt which as you say is impossible for Gertrud Stael von Holsein the wife of Heinrich Asbeck.

 I know I said in a previous post that you could trust Leo van de Pas - Genealogics website, but I notice he doesn't have any sources for this family either.

Unless someone else finds something, for the moment I wouldn't add any parents but put something on her profile to say that she can't be the same person as Gertrud the daughter of Hildebrandt, based on differences in dates.

Answer 2

I do not know the first name of Anna von Asbeck's mother, but her father was definitely not Heinrich! Anna's husband's (Gert von der Recke) father-in-law was Johann von Asbeck as stated in a document from 1516/17.  Her mother seems to be a daughter of a Stael zu Loburg, Sutthausen, Gretesch and Iburg. (This branch seems to have not used the "von Holstein" although they belong to the same family.) That is because  Wilhelm Stael zu Sutthausen and Rheine, Domherr zu Münster  (†1535) left parts of his inheritance to Anna's descendants and her brother, Johann, and his family, according to Wilhelm's last will (1534). That is why I believe that her mother was a sister of him. Thus, her parents are probably Wilhelm Stael zu Sutthausen, Gretesch and Iburg (fl. 1438-83) and Gertrud von Baer.