Father of Francis Spencer (Richard Spencer, born around 1580)

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I am now trying to figure out which Richard Spencer is the father of Francis Spencer (born 1620 in Wiltshire, England). I can only find one Richard Spencer (born around 1580), but I'm uncertain if it's the Richard Spencer who was born to Michael Spencer and Elizabeth "Whitebread". I've tried websites such as myheritage & ancestry.com, but they're not stating that Richard Spencer had any children (his wife is unknown)

Any help or feedback would be appreciated!
in Genealogy Help by Ashley Cullip G2G5 (5.9k points)
The family trees indicating Richard as Francis Spencer's father show very little information for Richard. It doesn't show his birthplace, but only his year of birth (1580).

These same family trees showed Francis' information. The following shows Richard's:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pubmembertrees&so=2&pcat=42&gss=angs-c&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&gsfn=richard&gsfn_x=1&gsln=spencer&gsln_x=1&MSAV=1&mssng=female&mssng_x=1&cp=0&catbucket=rstp&uidh=000

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You need to join "Find My Past ",It is expensive,but they have a great

research site.Shows all parish registers back to 1580.It is well documented.I do not have it now.Plus it covers other countries.
by Wayne Morgan G2G6 Pilot (868k points)
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Where was  Francis born?   The link on the profile only goes to Ancestry CA trees. I couldn't access them but searched from them on Ancestry UK. As far as I could see they have a dob but neither a place nor a source for the information. Ancestry actually has very few records for Wiltshire parishes other than indexed marriages.

As I mentioned before, there also aren't registers this early for  quite a lot of the parishes (they may have got lost or damaged by damp and vermin).

These are the parish registers  available  for  Wiltshire http://www.wshc.eu/parish-register-list.html  (notice that Brinkworth where John and Francis  lived  has registers going back to only 1653 so unless he was baptised elsewhere, the information on his baptism may not be in any existing record)

Some, registers,  but by no means all are transcribed and are freely available  on the Wiltshire OPC website. http://www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/genealogy/index.php/parish-directory

Some of the parishes on the OPC,  including Brinkworth have transcriptions of other early records which  can sometimes help take things further back.

One thing that probably won't help find his parent but may be interesting isthis inventory  A list of his possessions taken after his death and the person  who was allowed to deal with his estate

Ref No. P3/S/437 Title Administration bond, inventory Date1667

Person Spencer, Francis Occupation Yeoman 

Place Key /Grittenham/Brinkworth/Wiltshire Community Brinkworth

(you would have to get it copied and sent to you from the archives. Unfortunately this one is not online) http://history.wiltshire.gov.uk/heritage/getwill.php?id=72857

 The burial of Francis Spencer burial took place on 8th August, 1667

Brinkworth Burial Register 1663-1699, transcription http://www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/genealogy/index.php/parish-directory/item/324-brinkworth

 

by Helen Ford G2G6 Pilot (251k points)
According to a family tree on myheritage.com, Francis Spencer was born on July 15 1620 in Brinkworth, Wiltshire, England. He died around August 8, 1667 in the same place (Brinkworth).

 

I hope this following link works:

https://www.myheritage.com/FP/review-match.php?s=262718401&familyTreeID=1&individualID=1500348&targetSiteID=145657861&targetTreeID=1&targetIndividualID=1000031&comingFrom=individualMatches&listType=toConfirm

Hi Ashley, unfortunately, the link just takes me to the home page of your tree.

What you need to find is the source of the information on the other persons tree. According to the county records office a baptism register Brinkworth for that date doesn't exist  so you need to find where that date comes from.

The  burial is correct they were usually within 2-3 days of death.

There is a marriage register that goes back to 1605 and has the marriage of  Mr John Spencer and Mrs Anne Ayliffe on 8 Feb 1620/21

Ann Ayliffe was a member of the local manorial family

http://www.henly.f9.co.uk/home/brinkfam.html

Indeed, the man who owns this site has also transcribed the registers and some of the manorial surveys and gives his email address for people who want any information that he might have

http://www.henly.f9.co.uk/wiltshire.html

 

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by anonymous G2G6 (7k points)

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