Seeking source for marriage at Den Haag

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Looking for a source for the marriage of Hendrik Bosz and Adriana Sepers  (often given as Seepers) likely at The Hague (no idea what kerk), likely between 1800 and 1805; and most likely Dutch Reformed church (NG). Adriana was born at Heerewaarden to Robbert Sepers and Petronella (aka Peterken/Peternel) Ton. Hendrik was born at the Hague.
in Genealogy Help by Rob Ton G2G6 Pilot (274k points)
edited by Keith Hathaway

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Hi Rob, Been searching a bit but it s hard to search Den Haag as long as we don t know what church. Just found deathcertificate of Hendrik in 's Gravenzande (have been looking for marriage at 's Gravenzande also but no luck).

Do we have a profile of Hendrik and/or Adriana here?

Like to try the baptisms of their children to find out the church they were member of.

Have to run now but will search on later.

Mabey Jan or Bea will be on later and get your info earlier :p

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by Astrid Spaargaren G2G6 Pilot (203k points)
None of the marriage books  (gereformeerd) listed on zoekakten cover the time period we want to search. I looked at them all. Now I am bypassing zoekakten and work directly from the Familysearch inventory:

Netherlands, Zuid-Holland...Church Records, 1076-1916

Thanks for all this info and the effort put into finding it.

There is definitely some material above that is new to me. I knew the family was literally 'all over' the place - From Elizabeth born (illegitimately) at Heerewaarden in 1803 through to Anna Maria born at Vledder in 1821. I also expect there are 2 or more of children missing from the list given in the first comment given the gap from 1809 to 1817, but where they might have been born is the bigger question.

As regards the Adriana (variously given as Ariaentjen) that married Jacob Biesters, she is definitely related and is on my increasingly lengthy to-do list... she is a half-sister of Adriana's mother Peternel (Petronella), and the two half-sisters are also very likely second cousins of Adriana's Father Robbert.

You can find most of the 'known' relatives named somewhere on the Ton Family of Heerewaarden page where I try to keep track of all the descendants mentioned on WIkitree with links to those that have profiles (regardless whether I manage the profile or not). As a note of interest, the names on the linked page already include more than 10% of all the people born at Heerewaarden between 1811 and 1915. I forecast adding the 'Sepers' lines and all their spouses and descendants will put that percentage well above 15%

Dank Jan. So it ends finding a marriage in Den Haag for that period here.

Thank you Rob. I lost the link to the page. I was trying to see if they were on your list but couldn t find the list so fast. :p

It s dinnertime now here but I will defo look tonight again for the marriage in Heerwaarden. As we know now Adriana is of Heerwaarden en most commen is they marry at the place the bride lives, with all exceptions ofcourse :)

And yes there must be children missing. I looked only partly at the deathcertificates in the Hague to make sure Elisabeth wasn t stillborn or mabey born at an early age, it might we find some of them fiiting the gap, there. But they moved a lot too so who knows! :)

I have some time tonight to  look for you, but the rest of the week is filled :D

You know were to find us and happy I could do a little back for you!

Groetjes,

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I'm fairly confident I would have found the record if it was at Heerewaarden but another set of eyes never hurts.The Regionaal Archief Rivierenland has a really good database (records indexed under multiple spellings, not just the transcribed spelling), and the Gelders Archief have much of the same records indexed.
I have seen multiple references (unsourced, but generally accurate) to a marriage at the Hague 1805 so I suspect it will be found there.

Rob,

As to Anna Maria, born in Vledder 1821: She was actually born in Frederiksoord, a colony of the poor, part of a social experiment aiming to re-educate the poor. I think I reported to you about the colony in another case last year. Anyway, here is more info.

This explains their residence there, poor people were just forced to go there.

Rob,

I scanned all relevant 's Gravenhage films for a Hendrik & Adriana marriage in 1805, without results unfortunately...

Thanks again for looking...

In answer to the earlier question about a Wikitree profile for Adriana: I have just created it, along with her mother and siblings profiles. See Adriana Sepers 

I left it as I thought you like to search now yourself first with all new info. :) Making preparations for the second Dutch_Roots_Challenge :)  Site is here [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Dutch_Roots_Challenge  Dutch-Roots-Challenge) if you re interested. :p

Besides I can t be much on next five days because of work and fun things. Having dinner tomorrow-night with old friends, Wednesday work and Thirsday I m driving my brother to my sister in Germany, will stay there till Friday to go to the Kölner Philharmonie thirsdaynight for our sisters early birthday. And Saturday we have our campleaders training day.... lol so till next week! :D 

As said you know where you can find us for additional help. 

Sweet regards from a late Netherlands......... :)

 

A. 

 

 

Well after more searching I am ready to accept that the marriage record is not indexed, digitized, or otherwise available at this time, and to move on.

I did finish the rest of the family (I think I used all the records you guys provided) and... <trumpet sound> adding them pushed the number of descendants of Jan Gerrits that have Wikitree profiles to 1200 (plus over 200 spouses with profiles). *w00t w00t*

WOOT WOOT!!! :)

Happy for you!

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