Should there be a limit on the amount of profiles that belong to a project?

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I have been working on the profiles for 2 families that can trace their ancestors back to William the Conqueror.

My thoughts are that there might be too many profiles to have a "THE DESCENDANTS OF WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR" project.

Here is the website that I have been using as my source http://www.william1.co.uk/4.html

Thoughts/comments?

in The Tree House by Melissa McKay G2G6 Mach 3 (34.2k points)
I think if you were going to do categories for English Royal descendants, you'd do a hierarchy, so

[Henry I Descendants] would be a subcategory of [William I Descendants]

[Henry II Descendants] would be a subcategory of [Henry I Descendants]

etc
That makes sense although there would be a ton of sub categories.  But breaking things down into smaller pieces would make things a lot easier.

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I'm sorry Melissa, but that is a really bad source to be using.  Any long list of ancestors or descendants from the medieval period or later, that fails to cite any original sources is not to be trusted.  Even a quick glance reveals that it has many errors and includes information that is no longer regarded as reliable.

The European Aristocrats group uses Charles Cawley, Medieval Lands database as the starting point for their information.  Although this isn't without its' own mistakes, it at least uses some original records as sources.  It can be found here http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ and this is the link to William I http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm
by John Atkinson G2G6 Pilot (478k points)
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Thanks for the links they have been very helpful. However they don't go far enough.  I need to find a source for the descendants of

RICHARD of York, son of RICHARD "of Conisburgh" Earl of Cambridge & his first wife Anne Mortimer ... m (before 18 Oct 1424) CECILY Neville, daughter of RALPH Neville Earl of Westmoreland & his second wife Joan Beaufort

Richard Duke of York & his wife had thirteen children:

2.         ANNE (Fotheringhay Castle 10 Aug 1439-12 or 14 Jan 1476, bur St George’s Chapel, Windsor).  ...  m secondly ([1472/73]) THOMAS St Leger, son of --- (-beheaded Exeter [8] Nov 1483, bur St George’s Chapel, Windsor).  Knighted.

I do cross check with The Peerage website which has references to Burke's Peerage. 

Okay I was able to verify part of the missing pieces on Wikipedia now all I need is verify the connection:

A1. Anne St.Leger, + 1526, Md., Sir George Manners, 11th Baron de Ros of Helmsley, * c. 1470, + 1513.

- B1. Thomas Manners, 1st Earl of Rutland (1525), 12th Baron de Ros of Helmsley, K.G., P.C., * before 1492, + 1543, Md.1) 1513, Elizabeth Lovell, + 1513, d. of Sir Robert Lovell; Md.2), Eleanor Paston, + 1551, d. of Sir William Paston, of Paston, Norfolk.

-- C2. John Manners, Hon. Sir, + 1611, Md., Dorothy Vernon, + 1584, d. of Sir Geroge Vernon, of Nether Haddon (he was known as the “King of the Peak”).

--- D1. George Manners, Sir, * c. 1570, + 1623, Md. 1593, Grace Pierrepont, d. of Sir Henry Pierrepont, of Holme-Pierrepont,

and I have my connection, which is the same as on http://www.william1.co.uk/4.html

Found it on Peerage Website

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