Looking for a baptismal image & transcription for Johann George Herbst (abt. 1748) Nijkerk, Netherlands

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Could someone with time on their hands provide us with a baptism image and transcription thereof [the latter not from Family Search] of Johann George Herbst / Herpst (born abt. 1748) Nijkerke, Netherlands? Appreciatively ...
WikiTree profile: Johan George Herbst
in Genealogy Help by Philip van der Walt G2G6 Pilot (158k points)

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Here it is mentioned when he arrived (Churchmember) 

South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers (Cape Town Archives), 1660-1970 ," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12147-86077-10?cc=1478678 : accessed 12 April 2016), South Africa > Cape of Good Hope > Cape Town > Memberships 1757-1832 > image 14 of 160; State Archives, Cape Province. at the bottom of the right page 

And this , I think you already have it, is where is mentioned he left from Nijkerke

And maybe , since it's mentioned he left from Neukirchen, he's related to this Johann Heinrich Herbst ? Which probably means we have to look in Neukirchen for a Birth record .

by Bea Wijma G2G6 Pilot (281k points)
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Yes indeed - I'll see if there is a duplicate Heinrich out there ...

Here they both are Johann Heinrich Herbst and  Anna van der Schelde  :)

Yes - found it: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Herbst-248 (interestingly enough there had been others with the same surname that came to the Cape earlier on: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Herbst-49 or who got tied to the Cape later on: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Herbst-99 [family of Oscar P.?]).
Thanks Bea :)

Here something that might also be interesting : In "Waldeckische Wappen 3" S. 314 is mentioned :

Johann Justus Pistorius (*1615, + 1674, Schulmeister u. Kantor in Niederwildungen, dann Pfarrer in Mengeringhausen 1638-1661 u. Vasbeck 1662-74, verh. mit "Anna Katharina Herbst", Tochter des Pfarrers Johann H. in Sachsenhausen u.d. Margarethe Huxer aus Wildungen. 

Johann Justus Pistorius married Anna Katharina Herbst daughter of Minister (dominee) Johann Heinrich (?) Herbst en Margarethe Huxer from Wildungen.  

and this: 

80. Störmer, Christian, * Landau 10.05.1767, + Twiste 18.04.1824
oo Gembeck 04.10.1789 Marie Pistorius
81. Pistorius, Marie Elisabeth, * Gembeck 20.12.1759, + Twiste 18.04.1824 oo Gembeck 04.10.1789 Christian Störmer

162. Pistorius, Johann Jakob, * Vasbeck 28.08.1721
oo Gembeck 08.01.1749 Katherina am Ende
163. am Ende, Katherina Elisabeth, * 26.08.1726, [] Gembeck 06.11.1782 oo Gembeck 08.01.1749 Johann Pistorius

324. Pistorius, Johann Jacob, * Vasbeck 12.02.1687, + Vasbeck 16.08.1747 oo Vasbeck 15.11.1712 Maria Soest
325. Soest, Maria Katharina, * Vasbeck, ~ 1690, + Vasbeck 04.07.1770
oo Vasbeck 15.11.1712 Johann Pistorius

648. Pistorius, Johann Martin, * Vasbeck um 1656, + 22.04.1722 oo Vasbeck 22.11.1681 Margarete Rauch
649. Rauch, Margarete, * um 1656, + 29.08.1726 oo Vasbeck 22.11.1681 Johann Pistorius

1296. Pistorius, Johann Justus (Jost), * Bergheim um 1610, + Vasbeck 27.11.1674 oo 09.06.1640 Anna Herbst
1297. Herbst, Anna Catharina, * um 1620, + Vasbeck 29.07.1692
oo 09.06.1640 Johann Pistorius

2592. Pistorius, Justus, * um 1574, + um 1650 oo NN Battenheuser
2593. Battenheuser, NN oo Justus Pistorius
 

2594. Herbst, Johann, * Neukirchen/Ziegenhain um 1590, + Sachsenhausen 12.1622 oo Margarete Huxer
2595. Huxer, Margarete, * Wildungen um 1593 oo Johann Herbst

5188. Herbst, NN, + Altwildungen um 1597
5190. Huxer, Kaspar, * Münden ?? um 1552, + Wildungen 1628
oo um 1592 Margarethe Steller

10 382. Steller, Adam, * Wildungen um 1542, + Wildungen 1608
oo Wildungen 1563 Anna Mehler
10 383. Mehler, Anna, * Wildungen um 1540, + Wildungen 1624
oo Wildungen 1563 Adam Steller

41 532. Mehler, Contze, * Wildungen um 1444, + Wildungen um 1480
oo ? ?
41 533. ?, ? Metze oo Contze Mehler

83 064. Meln, Cobel, * Wildungen um 1415

And more for these families: 

81. Pistorius, Marie Elisabeth, * Gembeck 20.12.1759, + Twiste 18.04.1824

162. Pistorius, Johann Jacob *28 Aug 1721 Vasbeck, + 31 Oct 1759 Gembeck oo 8 Apr 1766 Gembeck, Katherina Elisabeth Am Ende
163. Am Ende, Katherina Elisabeth, *um 1726 Gembeck

324. Pistorius, Johann Jacob *12 Feb 1687 Vasbeck, +16 Aug 1747 Vasbeck oo 15 Nov 1712 Vasbeck, Maria Katharina Soest
325. Soest, Maria Katharina ~1690 Vasbeck, +4 Jul 1770 Vasbeck

648. Pistorius, Johann Martin * um 1656, Meineringhausen, + 22 Apr 1722, Vasbeck oo 22 Nov 1681, Vasbeck Margarethe Rauch
649. Rauch, Margarethe * um 1656, + 29 Aug 1726 Vasbeck

1296. Pistorius, Johann Justus (Jost), um 1610 Bergheim, +27 Nov 1674 Vasbeck oo 9 Jun 1640 Anna Catharina Herbst
1297. Herbst, Anna Catharina *um 1620, + 29 Jul 1692 Vasbeck
Kinder:
Jost Franz Pistorius, 
Maria Elisabeth Pistorius, *um 1645
Jeremias Pistorius, 
Anna Else Pistorius, *um 1651
Johann Heinrich Pistorius, *um 1645
Johann Martin Pistorius, * um 1656
Philipp Pistorius, *um 1660

2592. Pistorius, Justus *um 1574, +um 1650
2593. Battenheuser, NN
2594. Herbst, Johann +um 1590 Neukirchen/Ziegenhain, + Dez 1622 Sachsenhausen
2595. Huxer, Margarete *um 1593 Wildungen

10368. Pistorius (Becker). Adam
10369. NN
10382. Steller, Adam *um 1542, oo 1563, +1608 Wildungen
10383. Mehler, Anna *um 1540. +1624 Wildungen

And they all (or at least Johann (Jost) Justus and his wife Anna Catharina Herbst) , seem to be present here already :) Pistorius 

(Herbst descendants)

Unglaublich ... very interesting ... I'll make a connection to the earliest Pistorius profile ... thanks Bea!

Bea - I matched the two Herbst profiles - they might be different persons - the plot thickens - see the bio of Herbst-248: Johann Heinrich Herbst arrived at the Cape of Good Hope in about 1749 as a soldier. He came from Neukirchen, district Ziegenhain in Germany. From 1752 to 1755 he was a baker and in 1758 he became a miller. He died on 25.10.1800.

in case of any confusion please note: In 1767 he employed a possible family member in his baking and milling enterprise, by the same name, Johann Heinrich Herbst, from the same town and district in Germany, This JH Herbst married on 29.11.1799 Maria Buitendag and he died in Paarl on 23.4.1820.

Yes I was just looking at it , I would not merge them they seem to be different people, maybe Johann George was the or just another familymember ?? I'm trying to find a good German source , but you know Germany, it's not the easiest place to find good sources :P

The info all comes from this forum Ahnenforschung .net  and they mention  sources but the actual sources seem not to be available on the internet ..but still digging :P

Have to go now, but here's a link to the German Archive already searching for Johannes Pistorius 314 results  and here for Johannes Herbst 720 results, 11 from the Hessisches Staatsarchiv (Neukirchen if I'm correct was part of that region) so hopefully there's something there for them :D

Wonderful, thanks Bea!

Here are all Herbst immigrants from the South Africa immigrants list 

So they all are different people I guess and from different dates of course , years of arrival:

HERBST, Christian Friedrich, Königsberg in Preußen, 1752 
HERBST, Johann, Bremen, 1686 
HERBST, Johann Georg, Neukirchen, 1770 
HERBST, Johann Heinrich, Neukirchen im Kreis Ziegenhain, 1749 
HERBST, Johann Heinrich, Neukirchen im Kreis Ziegenhain, 1767 

Interesting, thanks Bea! (I did some detective work of myself among the Pistorius LNAB - the first one to arrive was born in the late 18th century and migrated to the fledging Republic of Natalia via the Cape to the end of the first quarter of the 19th century).

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