The early Greenleafs in Ipswich, England, where did they come from?

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A number of early Greenleafs lived in Ipswich, England and are buried in the churchyard of St Mary le Tour. Can anyone throw any light on where they came from? Were they French Huguenot refugees? If so did they come direct to Ipswich or via Norwich or Spitlesfield? One of my ancestors from Ipswich was a silk dyer.
in Genealogy Help by Joan Greenleaf G2G1 (2.0k points)
Do you have specific first names for the Greenleafs buried at St. Mary? Are there birth, marriage or death years indicated on the cemetery records?
Frank. I would have to do some refreshing of my memory to answer that because they were on other people's trees not mine, I am referring to the 1600s to early 1700s. They generally are referred to by people researching Edmund Greenleaf who sailed to America on the ship after the Mayflower.  My branch of the family stayed at home in England.. They have ordinary English sounding names like John but I have seen it sugested that Greenleaf is a direct translation from the French but without documentary evidence.

French connection believed, please see    http://www.bdhhfamily.com/edmund_greenleaf.htm

 

Edmund Greenleaf

Find A Grave Index

Name Edmund Greenleaf
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1671
Event Place Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States of America
Photograph Included Y
Birth Date 02 Jan 1574
Death Date 24 Mar 1671
Affiliate Record Identifier 6880653
Cemetery First Burying Ground

CITING THIS RECORD

"Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVVQ-V74K : accessed 16 April 2016), Edmund Greenleaf, 1671; Burial, Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States of America, First Burying Ground; citing record ID 6880653, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.

 

Edmund Greenleaf

BillionGraves Index

Name Edmund Greenleaf
Event Type Burial
Event Place Bangor, Penobscot, Maine, United States
Cemetery Congregation Beth Israel Cemetery
Latitude 44.82775
Longitude -68.72973
Birth Date 02 Jan 1574
Death Date 24 Mar 1671
Affiliate Create Date 2015-11-22 04:02:25
Affiliate Image Identifier 17365795

CITING THIS RECORD

"BillionGraves Index," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1W-WN3Z : accessed 16 April 2016), Edmund Greenleaf, died 24 Mar 1671; citing BillionGraves(http://www.billiongraves.com : 2012), Burial at Congregation Beth Israel Cemetery, Bangor, Penobscot, Maine, United States.

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Jane Greenleaf
Head
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth:    1818    Liverpool, Lancashire, England
residence:    1881    Ipswich St Matthew, Suffolk, England            

Edward Greenleaf
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth:    1853    London, Middlesex, England
residence:    1881    Lowestoft, Suffolk, England    
spouse:    Julia Greenleaf

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
Thanks Jane.  The ones that I am interested in are earlier, 17th century or even 16th.
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Greenleaf

Recorded in several spellings including Greely, Greenley, Greenleaf and Greenlee, this is an English surname. It has two possible origins and meanings. The first is that it is locational from either Greenlee in Northumberland or just possibly Greenlea in Dumfries, Scotland, or that it is a dialectal variant of Grindley in Staffordshire. In all case the derivation is from the Old English pre 7th Century words 'gren', meaning green and 'leah', a fenced enclosure in a forest. Greenleaf may also be a nickname surname for an actor character in the medieval pageants. These men dressed in a costume of green leaves played a prominent part in these public dramas, and the honour of this position was then handed down to the next generation, hence creating a hereditary surname. The name, through early emigration is also well recorded in America,the earliest known example and one of the first colonists, being that of Robert Greenleafe who settled at "Charles Cittie" in the colony of Virginia in the year 1610. Other early examples of the surname recordings include: Francis Greenlie who was christened at the church of St Mary Aldermary, in the city of London on April 12th 1609, John Greenley, a witness at St Giles Cripplegate, on November 18th 1666, and William Greenly, a witness at St Sepulchre church, on March 19th 1694, all in the city of London. The first recorded spelling of the family name is probably that of Johannes de Grenelef. This was dated 1379, in the Poll Tax rolls of the county of Yorkshire, during the reign of King Richard 11 of England, 1377 - 1399. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

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by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
Thanks very much Gill.
Thanks Frank this helpful for me. I'm researching some Greenleafs , although at this time I don't think they are related. But I have found on most people I don't think are related it turns out they are.
Thanks everybody - very helpful. It is interesting that there are two such very different views on the origin of the name. The well-documented Edmund Greenleaf, who sailed to America on the John and Mary with his family in 1634, was a silk dyer and that seems to me to support the French Huguenot theorŷ. I was just hoping that someone would have some definite evidence one way or the other by now.
Every unusual name in England is ascribed to either Hugenots or Flemish weavers.  But usually the names are found in English records way too early.  The main exodus of Huguenots from France was after 1685.
Well I am very happy to think that I am English! :-)

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