Who are the parents of Harry Mortimer Mclean of England? Born est 1872-1875.

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Married Helen Mary Hill AKA Mary Helen Hill AKA Mary Ellen Hill of Illinois. Had possibly 8 children including James and Harry Arthur Mclean Jr. Lived in Hessville, Indiana.

Harry maybe an alias for Harold or Henry.
Allegedly worked as a taxman in Nottingham.

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At this point, I'd like a conclusive trail of immigration documents from the UK to the US. The New York Passenger Arrival Lists of Ellis Island 1892-1924 does not agree with the 1893 immigration estimate given on the US census of the Harry Mclean I am confident is in fact the correct H. Mclean that I am looking for.

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Harry has an immigration date of 1872 on a 1920 US Census where his last name is misspelled as Mcleavon. It is possible that Harry M. Mclean's parents immigrated to the US while Harry was still very young in which case finding his parent's immigration records could be conclusive.

If his parents are Anthony and Jane and they immigrated to the US with him then there should be records of that.

Name	Harry Mcleavon
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1920
Event Place	Hammond Ward 5, Lake, Indiana, United States
Gender	Male
Age	48
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1872
Birthplace	England
Immigration Year	1872
Father's Birthplace	England
Mother's Birthplace	Wales
Sheet Letter	B
Sheet Number	3

Household	Role	Gender	Age	Birthplace
Harry Mcleavon	Head	M	48	England
Helen Mcleavon	Wife	F	34	Illinois
Stewart Mcleavon	Son	M	15	Illinois
John Mcleavon	Son	M	13	Illinois
Thomas Mcleavon	Son	M	11	Indiana
Irene Mcleavon	Daughter	F	9	Indiana
Margaret Mcleavon	Daughter	F	6	Florida
Harry Mcleavon Jr.	Son	M	1	Indiana

 "United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MFW7-QTK : accessed 2 May 2016), Thomas Mcleavon in household of Harry Mcleavon, Hammond Ward 5, Lake, Indiana, United States; citing sheet 3B, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,820,445.

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Looks like he immigrated in 1893 via Pennsylvania on the British Princess:

Harry M Mclean

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Passenger List Index Cards

Name	Harry M Mclean
Event Type	Immigration
Event Date	1893
Event Place	Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender	Male
Age	21
Birthplace	English
Ship Name	British Princess
Birth Year (Estimated)	1872

"Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Passenger List Index Cards, 1883-1948," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFDX-PKT : accessed 2 May 2016), Harry M Mclean, 1893; citing Immigration, NARA microfilm publication T526 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,380,290.

Answer 1

Harry McLean
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924
residence:        Fenton, England
immigration:    9 October 1909                
 
Harry M. Mclean
Father
Illinois, Cook County Birth Registers, 1871-1915
birth:        Eng    
spouse:    Hellen Hill
child:    Helen Mclean        

Henry Mclean
Son
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth:    1879    England
residence:    1891    Everton, Lancashire, England    
father:    William Mclean
mother:    Margaret Mclean
other:    Edward Mclean, Caroline Mclean, John Mclean, William Mclean, Elizabeth Mclean

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He is Harry Mortimer Mclean. 1910 US Census data includes an entry for immigration estimating, 1893. According to the same source, his father was from England and his mother was from Wales.

Answer 2

 

Harry Mortimer Mclean

England and Wales Birth Registration Index

Name	Harry Mortimer Mclean
Event Type	Birth Registration
Registration Quarter	Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year	1872
Registration District	Manchester
County	Lancashire
Event Place	Manchester, Lancashire, England
Volume	8D
Page	321
Line Number	242

CITING THIS RECORD

"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database,FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2XHR-G35 : accessed 18 April 2016), Harry Mortimer Mclean, 1872; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Manchester, Lancashire, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

Answer 3

 

Harry Mortimer Mclean

mentioned in the record of Helen Mclean

Name	Harry Mortimer Mclean
Gender	Male
Wife	Helen Hill Mclean
Daughter	Helen Mclean

Name	Helen Mclean
Event Type	Birth
Event Date	07 May 1903
Event Place	Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
Registration Place	, Cook, Illinois
Gender	Female
Father's Name	Harry Mortimer Mclean
Mother's Name	Helen Hill Mclean
Certificate Number	11604

CITING THIS RECORD

"Illinois, Cook County, Birth Certificates, 1871-1940," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQYV-HM8 : accessed 18 April 2016), Harry Mortimer Mclean in entry for Helen Mclean, 07 May 1903; citing Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States, reference/certificate 11604, Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm 1,288,051.

Answer 4

Harry Mortimer McLean in the 1891 England Census, living in Blackburn, Lancashire with his parents:

Name:Harry Mortimer McLean

Age:19

Estimated birth year:abt 1872

Relation:Son

Father's name:Anthony McLean

Mother's name:Jane McLean

Gender:Male

Where born:Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:Blackburn

Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul

Town:BlackburnCounty/Island:LancashireCountry:England

Street address: 24 Dukes Brow

Occupation: Furniture Dealer's assistant

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district:BlackburnSub registration district:Blackburn NorthernED, institution, or vessel:52Neighbors:View others on pagePiece:3402Folio:65Page Number:4Household Members:

Name	Age
Anthony McLean	55
Jane McLean	37
Harry Mortimer McLean	19
Stewart Anthony McLean	17
Florence Isabel McLean	14
Frederick McLean	12

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Anthony Mclean is a supervisor at the Internal Revenue Excise, so this matches the family story shifted by a generation.

Answer 5

Harry Mortimer McLeans parents are listed in England Census, as Anthony Mclean, born c 1836 Brompton, Yorkkshire & Jane born c 1853, Warrington Lancashire.

I believe Jane to be Jane Houghton who married Anthony McLean in Blackburn in 1880. (Blackburn 8e /333 q December 1880). Her birth was registered 1852 (Warrington 8c/101 q March 1852).

Their is no trace of a baptism record for Anthony, although this is Anthony in the 1851 Census, with his parents, living in Brompton, Northallerton, Yorkshire. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKVV-WHJW. Anthony died in 1892, Blackburn (Blackburn 8e/326 q March 1892) and buried 30 January 1892.  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J85G-X6K

Answer 6

Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerk Project http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html has a transcription of the marriage of Anthony McLean & Jane Houghton

Marriage: 9 Dec 1880 St Paul, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Anthony McLean - Full, Supervisor, Widower, Lorne Terrace
Jane Houghton - Full, Spinster, Lorne Terrace
    Groom's Father: William McLean, Deceased, Builder
    Bride's Father: James Houghton, Deceased, Wire Manufacturer
    Witness: Th? Swiss?; John M Greenwood
    Married by License by: Benjn. Thompson
    Register: Marriages 1878 - 1884, Page 88, Entry 176
    Source: LDS Film 1470928

The parish register image is also available on Ancestry

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2576/42561_339804__0002-00051?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fsearch%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d2576%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing#?imageId=42561_339804__0003-00092

Baptism entry for Jane HOUGHTON on Ancestry http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2575/4421488_00520/13254524?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dLancashireParishBirths%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3djane%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dhoughton%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbdy%3d1853%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d5%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d1wh&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

Novr 13 1853 No. 1342. Jane daughter of James and Ellen Houghton of Winwick road, Steel Wire Manufacturer (Bishop's Transcript - Warrington St. Paul 1850-1859

 

 

Answer 7

Ian ~

In the case you are still looking, I believe the correct parents for Harry Mortimer McLean are in the record below.  Also is the 1881 census of Harry in the household of his maternal grandparents, Wales.  It appears that the enumerator may have lumped them all together on the listed POB.   

I believe the Jane McLean in the 1891 census above is Harry's stepmother.

SS Index for Harry:

Name:	Harry Mortimer McLean
SSN:	714031166
Gender:	Male
Race:	White
Birth Date:	2 Dec 1873
Birth Place:	Manchester, United Kingdom
Father:	Anthony McLean
Mother:	Amelia Davies
Type of Claim:	Original SSN.
Notes:	Feb 1937: Name listed as HARRY MORTIMER MCLEAN

   Source info: Ancestry.com. U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.

 

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1881, Wales Census:

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5487; Folio: 26; Page: 14; GSU roll: 1342319

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Name:	Harry Mc Lean
Age:	9
Estimated birth year:	abt 1872
Relation:	Grandson
Gender:	Male
Where born:	Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Civil Parish:	Llanllwchaiarn
County/Island:	Montgomeryshire
Country:	Wales
Street address:	Commercial St
Education:	View image
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Occupation:	Scholar
Registration district:	Newtown
Sub registration district:	Newtown
ED, institution, or vessel:	7
Neighbors:	View others on page
Piece:	5487
Folio:	26
Page Number:	14
Household Members:	Name Age Henry A. Davies 63 Elizabeth Davies 62 Harry Mc Lean 9 Stuart A. Mc Lean 7 Eliz. Hurdley 21

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And birth record:

"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2XHR-G35 : 1 October 2014), Harry Mortimer Mclean, 1872; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Manchester, Lancashire, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

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Thank you, Mary.

I am still looking for information about Harry Mortimer and Nellie "Hellen Mary" Mclean nee Hill. I do believe that Anthony and Jane are the parents of Harry Mortimer Mclean though the records I have reviewed for that possibility indicate the Harry was born or baptized in Northallerton, and I have not been certain of his parents. Anthony matches what my family lore from my maternal grandfather has told me, but he does not like or want to discuss his near ancestors in general. The SSN record indicating Amelia Davies is consistent with records I have seen and introduces a new piece of vital information that I have been missing.

I appreciate the assistance. Keep me apprised if you come across anything else.

Enjoy,

-Ian

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You are very welcome!

Below is Harry's death cert.  On the cert., Amelia's maiden name is Davies.  Which might confirm the 1881 census for Harry's grandparents in Wales.  He is buried at Elmwood Cemetery in Hammond.  He died of prostate cancer.

Death cert:

Source Citation: Indiana Archives and Records Administration; Indianapolis, IN, USA; Death Certificates; Year: 1944; Roll: 12

Source Information: Ancestry.com. Indiana, Death Certificates, 1899-2011 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.

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Name:	Harry M Mc Lean
Gender:	Male
Race:	White
Age:	72
Marital Status:	Widowed
Birth Date:	2 Dec 1871
Birth Place:	England
Death Date:	26 Nov 1944
Death Place:	Hammond, Lake, Indiana, USA
Father:	Anthony Mc Lean
Mother:	Amelia Mc Lean
Spouse:	Helen Mc Lean

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That's him alright. Precisely what I have learned from interviewing a descendant of Adelaide McLean and reviewing records. Looks like there is a discrepancy between his birth year. 1871 or 1873. Agreement on the date, 2nd of December.

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Another confirmation of his mother's maiden name being Davies is from the new GRO index (registration needed but free)

MCLEAN, HARRY  MORTIMER            DAVIES   

GRO Reference: 1872  M Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 321

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp

(you could get an exact date of birth by ordering the certificate  but from the date of registration, the 1871 date is possible, the 1873 date not so)

There is a possible  marriage of  Amelia Davies to an Anthony Mclean  registered in W Derby in 2Q of 1863 MCLEAN  Anthony    W. Derby  8b 649

You mentioned Northallerton.

The 1871 census  for Newton, Lancashire RG10; Piece: 4056; Folio: 88; Page: 37   has

 Anthony Maclean age 35 Inland Revenue Officer Northallerton

Amelia,wife 29, Wales

William, son, 4

Charlotte  A,dau 3

Charles L.,son 1 ( says all these children were born in Wales)

 Anthony Mclean,  by then supervisor in the Inland Revenue  died on 26th Jan 1892  leaving his estate worth £352 10s, administration granted to wife Jane, (you can find this in the Calendar of Probate on Ancestry or https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

 Anthony Mclean  was buried at St Mary, Mellor, Lancashire on January 30th 1892, the burial register (ref PR 3093/1/4 ) says he was 56 years old and lived in St Pauls Parish Blackburn

Also buried at St Mary, Mellor, Lancashire(PR 3093/1/4 ) was Amelia Mclean.

She was buried on 21, Jan 1880,  said to be 38 years old and also lived in St Pauls Parish Blackburn.

The marriage of Anthony and Amelia is seems to have taken place in Everton 

 Liverpool  Records Office, Everton, St George,  283 GEV/3/5

It took place on May 28th 1863, at Everton, St George, Walton on the Hill

Anthony Mclean, full age, bachelor, inland revenueofficer, West Derby Road, father William Mclean, builder

Amelia Davies, full age, spinster, Newtown, County Montgomery, father , Henry Arthur Davies, (glainer?? possibly from looking at earlier census glazier) both signed and the witnesses were John Lewis and Elizabeth Davies.

The 1851 census has Amelia Davies born in Llanllwchaiarn, Montgomeryshire, Wales  and living with her parents Henry Davies aged 33, son in law,  b Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales  and Elizabeth Davies  aged  32, born Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales

They are in the home of Amelia's  maternal grandparents, William Lewis aged,  57, Grocer and Innkeeper,  born Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire, Wales and Elizabeth Lewis aged 56, born Treveglws, Montgomeryshire, Wales

(better stop.. sorry if repeating what you have already found)

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Thanks everyone for the information. I have taken so long to get back at this because of world events, other priorities, and I did not see the updates on this until I was going through profiles.