Profile Incorrectly Project Protected as De Montfort [closed]

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This profile should have LNAB of Montfort, but it is currently project protected as De Montfort. Is there any way someone could assist me with fixing this?

--Jayme
WikiTree profile: William de Montfort
closed with the note: Resolved
in Genealogy Help by Jayme Arrington G2G6 Pilot (103k points)
closed by Keith Hathaway
There are many Montfoort's with different spellings as there were / are many places called Montfort / Montfoord / Montfoort in Europe. I'm not sure exact which LNAB conventions are applicable here, and if the Euroaristo naming convention applies. It seems though that either way ''de Montfort'' / ''De Montfort'' / or ''Montfort'' not been validated enough. Why do you believe the the protection of this profile with the current LNAB to be wrong? Any which way you need to deliberate with the project research coordinators and the leaders about this.

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Name_Fields_for_European_Aristocrats

6.b. b. The common ‘de’, ‘du’, ‘le’, ‘la’, ‘de la’, ‘von’, ‘van’ before a surname does not go in the LNAB field; it goes with the surname in the Current Last Name field while the surname, ONE word, goes in the LNAB. Example: Last name at birth: "Villefort", Current Last Name: "de Villefort". The exception to this is de Vere. Members of this family should have both words in the LNAB field.

 

I understand that different rules apply to the European Aristocrats as far as the LNAB, than for example for the Dutch Cape Colony where the suffixes are included in the LNAB-field. But merely by looking at the profile, the only part that suggest any title is the "Sir" in the prefix-field. I miss all the categories / templates and reasons (evidence) for your reasoning if it is not part of a project. Though I must admit that I was sort of at a loss when I edited this profile last week http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_la_Borde-1 (forgetting to log out as project) as well as the surrounding family profiles, realising that these would fit in the Euristocrat project (besides the Huguenot project) and did not exactly know which part went where. I did notice that during the GEDCOM import the titles were all imported in the Suffix-field and then broken off (too long). Anyways, the (great-)great-grandchildren who did make it to the Cape Colony have the name convention where the "du" etc. form part of the LNAB, but then in the lower case.

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Profile is corrected.
by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)
selected by Darlene Athey-Hill

Thanks, Doug, for taking care of this.  And thanks to Jayme for coming across the incorrect LNAB.  It was incorrect and should not have 'de' as part of the LNAB.  William de Montfort does fall within the EuroAristo project.  I've added the template to his profile.

Darlene - Co-Leader, British Isles 742-1499 project

Thanks for adding the template Darlene; it makes more sense this way.

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